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Old 12-31-2008, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Durham, NC
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Nice. That's exactly what I'm doing. I know the exact Samsung LCD I want, even memorized the model number. I've seen it in a couple different stores, and will pull the trigger as soon as I find a good enough deal.
Which one?

And, do you know the Amazon gold box trick?

 
Old 12-31-2008, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Cary - A great town for me
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Best Buy $749 + tax

Amazon $599 shipped

Samsung LN32A450 32-Inch 720p LCD HDTV

Great LCD. Excellent Consumer Reports rating.

1080i & 1080p are the high quality HD televisions. 720p is a low grade HD quality. Someone in a brick & mortar store may have been able to explain that prior to purchasing.
 
Old 12-31-2008, 03:13 PM
 
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Circuit City is in bankruptcy and Best Buy is also in trouble. HH Gregg is poised to scoop up the business if they are smart. Just like Bed Bath & Beyond will benefit from Linens N Things going belly up.
 
Old 12-31-2008, 03:16 PM
 
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1080i & 1080p are the high quality HD televisions. 720p is a low grade HD quality. Someone in a brick & mortar store may have been able to explain that prior to purchasing.
There are no 1080p 32" tvs. it is not needed as the pixels are already packed tight enough. 1080p does not always mean its better. I would take a 50" 720p plasma over a budget 1080p 42" lcd for the same price any day of the week. 1080i and 1080p are not the same. 1080i is more in line with 720p as far as performance goes. You will only be able to see the difference between 720p and 1080p if you sit really close to the tv.

Ironically, this is the kind of bad advice you are likely to get at a Best Buy.
 
Old 12-31-2008, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Cary - A great town for me
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There are no 1080p 32" tvs. it is not needed as the pixels are already packed tight enough. 1080p does not always mean its better.
1080i and 1080p are not the same. 1080i is more in line with 720p as far as performance goes. You will only be able to see the difference between 720p and 1080p if you sit really close to the tv.
This information is completely inaccurate.

First, there are many 1080p 32" televisions. The SONY Bravia XBR KDL-32XBR6 is just one for an example.

Second, I did not say that 1080i and 1080p were the same thing.

Third, both 1080i and 1080p are vastly better than 720p when inputing a full HD source and playing DVD's & high end video games. If one cannot see the difference, it is time to see the eye doctor.

If anyone wants good and factual advice on anything home theater, feel free to DM me.
 
Old 12-31-2008, 04:01 PM
 
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This information is completely inaccurate.

First, there are many 1080p 32" televisions. The SONY Bravia XBR KDL-32XBR6 is just one for an example.

Second, I did not say that 1080i and 1080p were the same thing.

Third, both 1080i and 1080p are vastly better than 720p when inputing a full HD source and playing DVD's & high end video games. If one cannot see the difference, it is time to see the eye doctor.

If anyone wants good and factual advice on anything home theater, feel free to DM me.
No it's not. There is no reason for someone to pay more on a 32" 1080p if you are using it for a tv. That Sony you posted is almost a grand at Amazon. For a grand you can get a 50" 720p plasma or a 1080p 42" plasma for a little less than that. It's still borderline at 50". I can easily tell the difference between 1080p and 720p on a 50" tv under the right circumstances, but joe six pack probably won't. One of my tvs is a 50" 720p Panasonic plasma and it accepts a 1080p signal and then downscales. Blu-ray still looks amazing. No plasma or lcds are native 1080i except for a Hitachi model that is no longer produced. Crts are but they are dead.

My last recommendation, don't bother with lcd. Plasma picture is much smoother, better black levels, and uniform viewing from all angles.
 
Old 12-31-2008, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Cary - A great town for me
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My last recommendation, don't bother with lcd. Plasma picture is much smoother, better black levels, and uniform viewing from all angles.

This is the only thing posted that was even remotely accurate and I back you up 100% on it.
 
Old 12-31-2008, 04:27 PM
 
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This is the only thing posted that was even remotely accurate and I back you up 100% on it.
Wow, you would take that ****ty 32" Sony lcd over a much larger 50" 720p Panny plasma? Interesting..

There are no current native 1080i interlaced plasmas or lcds. They are either 1366 x 768p, 1024 x 768p, or 1920 x 1080p.

http://www.carltonbale.com/2006/11/1080p-does-matter/

http://att.com.com/720p-vs-1080p-hdtv/
 
Old 12-31-2008, 04:53 PM
 
Location: FL
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This information is completely inaccurate.

First, there are many 1080p 32" televisions. The SONY Bravia XBR KDL-32XBR6 is just one for an example.

Second, I did not say that 1080i and 1080p were the same thing.

Third, both 1080i and 1080p are vastly better than 720p when inputing a full HD source and playing DVD's & high end video games. If one cannot see the difference, it is time to see the eye doctor.

If anyone wants good and factual advice on anything home theater, feel free to DM me.
I'm not trying to be difficult, but really? Vastly better than 720p? Really? At what screen size and what distance from the screen? You using Blu-Ray or you using TWC? Are you watching MPEG 4 or MPEG 2? You have your tv connected via an HDMI cable or component cables? Do you watch movies in OAR (orignal aspect ratio)? If so, is there more resolution in OAR movies or movies that aren't OAR?

What is a "high-end video game"?

Here is something for you: 1080i has more spatial detail but the vertical resolution during motion is cut in half. 720p as a progressive format is more efficient to encode which reduces the artifacts on scenes with fast motion. Even on full bandwith 1080i stations you'll still notice blocking on fast motion.

Most of the episodic material we watch on tv is shot in a progressive format (i.e. film) and then transferred to D5. As a result of the transfer to D5, the presented material should be wonderful no matter what resolution you're watching (see Lost and Grey's on ABC). For live sports the cameras that are used tend to have sensors with 1080 resolution, so the scaling to 720P produces sharper images than sensors with native resolution. This allows 720p to have a higher apparent resolution than the 2/3 ratio loss of 720p would imply. Truth is there is no loss of vertical resolution on motion. However as the shutter speed is 1/60th (or 1/50th in PAL lands) motion blur will become a limiting factor with either resolution.

Long story short, many different factors play a role in what resolution looks better to someone. Namely, screen size and source material.
 
Old 12-31-2008, 04:54 PM
 
Location: FL
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Wow, you would take that ****ty 32" Sony lcd over a much larger 50" 720p Panny plasma? Interesting..

There are no current native 1080i interlaced plasmas or lcds. They are either 1366 x 768p, 1024 x 768p, or 1920 x 1080p.

1080p Does Matter - Here's When (Screen Size vs. Viewing Distance vs. Resolution) » CarltonBale.com

720p vs. 1080p HDTV: The final word - Fully Equipped - CNET Reviews
I wouldn't mind having a Panny Kuro myself.
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