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Old 08-04-2009, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Hey everyone. I'm a new member and a long-time reader of these forums (this one in particular) and I have a few questions. Although I think I've read every relocation-related thread from the past several weeks/months.

I'm currently a student and I'm taking a year off from school. I briefly lived in the Charlotte area, and have friends there and in the Raleigh and Wilmington areas. I am looking to transfer after my year off to either UNC or NC State from Temple University here in Philadelphia. I'm not trying to come off as arrogant, but I think I'm on pretty solid ground as far as getting into either school. I'm 0.07 points shy of a 4.0. But that's not my question.

I'm looking to move in January (give or take a month or so) so that I can get settled in, get acclimated, learn my way around, etc. I'm also looking to become a 'resident' of North Carolina, as it's the place I've wanted to live since I left.

My questions mostly relate to how I might fare during the period from January to the start of classes (and thus, student loans, grants, and a bit more financial security) in August. I am aware of the unemployment numbers as they appear on paper. I am also aware of the tendency of people to say "stay where you are!" and point to their apocalyptic numbers and etc.

I have a job working with Gap Inc that I can transfer with me -- working either at a Gap, Banana Republic, or Old Navy store. I don't particularly enjoy retail, but it would be income while I look for something on a more full-time basis to bide my time until August. I also do NOT plan on moving until I've got enough cash saved up to pay a few months' rent, utilities, groceries, etc. This down economy is the real deal and I don't want to be caught unprepared either here in PA or in NC. I'm currently working and saving money for that purpose.

Also, I just want to add this in. I may be coming from "yankee" territory but I'm not looking to bring my "ways" with me and be one of "those" people. I'm moving to North Carolina because I *like* North Carolina. I'm not moving there because I *like* Pennsylvania. I look forward to the culture shift. I embrace it! Haha.

Any advice or pointers or a critique of my plan would be appreciated. And I apologize for being wordy. It's a bad habit of mine.
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:57 PM
 
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I think this is a great place for an education and to live - I did/am doing both.

On residency for tuition purposes.... Moving in January to start classes next fall probably won't do it. Count on at least one, if not two, years of paying out-of-state tuition. More info here:
Residency | Office of the University Registrar
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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I think this is a great place for an education and to live - I did/am doing both.

On residency for tuition purposes.... Moving in January to start classes next fall probably won't do it. Count on at least one, if not two, years of paying out-of-state tuition.
The education aspect, to me, seems fantastic. The whole combination of strong academics, world-renowned research and, hey -- some pretty strong athletic traditions too (winning is nice..).

I researched the residency aspect and as far as I can tell you have to have been a resident for a year, and provide 'proof' such as a North Carolina driver's license, utility bills, voter registration, etc. Since I'm moving both for education *and* just to relocate to somewhere more enjoyable, I don't think these will be a problem. I pretty much intend on transferring my vehicle and license as soon as I move, and a utility bill would first show up in February. So it might be a year of out-of-state tuition, I guess. Unless I can prove it started in January and get a spring semester change of residency. I'm pretty much okay with the tuition situation, though. I'm more freaked out by the prospect of the economy and the 500 miles between home and Raleigh. It's not going to stop me, though..it's just sending my control freak impulses out of control.
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:10 PM
 
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I think you'll do just fine!
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:28 PM
 
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It was really hard for me to get in-state tuition at NCSU but that is because I came from MA and lived in the dorms paying out of state tuition for the first 2 years before I applied. However, I did eventually get it after living in an apt and working here for a few years (and all the other reqs). Given your situation and proving you have actually relocated several months BEFORE you started school should allow you to get it after your 1 yr required of living here. I don't know for sure, but just a guess from my experience as to what they are looking for. As long as you have proof that you "officially moved here" and are working here. If you get rejected, ALWAYS repeal it to the board. You get to present your case to prove to them you are here for good. That's what I finally did and it worked.

And good idea to move down here, I don't regret it one bit!
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Old 08-04-2009, 10:42 PM
 
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I also am looking at moving down to NC for school in January, so hope you don't mind if I piggyback on your thread. Looking at transferring to NCSU from Massachusetts. I know you need at LEAST 12 months of proven residence in the state of NC to get in-state tuition.

Also, I know how you feel being freaked out about being so far from 'home'. I too am one of those control freaks, so it's hard to imagine being away from everything that I am comfortable with. However, my brother lives in the Triangle area and I am down there very often and have yet to really find anything about the area I do not like or am turned off by. I find the area to be much better than anything you can find in the north east.
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Old 08-04-2009, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Also, I know how you feel being freaked out about being so far from 'home'. [...] I find the area to be much better than anything you can find in the north east.
I think the freaking out will be over as soon as I get settled in and meet some people and start establishing a sense of normalcy/home. I just have to take that first big step. As for being better than the northeast, I would have to agree. I love the cities up here, but I think I like them more on a visiting basis than a residential one. North Carolina's weather is nicer, the people tend to be nicer (less scowls when you're walking down the street, less heads down, etc.), and I like being close to both the beach AND the ski resorts.

I will miss some things though...baseball culture being one of them. Easy access to perfect cheesesteaks, bagels, and clam chowder being another. Haha. I will also NOT miss being layered up in a pea coat over a sweater over a long-sleeve shirt between Christmas and Easter.

I'm leaning toward NCSU myself, so I'm kind of wondering if you've started the transfer process yet or how that's working out for you? I'm a big fan of easy things...so...I hope they don't make it a huge hassle.

Also, anyone have any recommendations on the best places to live within easy commuting distance to NCSU and also some kind of downtown/area with bars/culture?
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Old 08-05-2009, 09:03 AM
 
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Downtown and Glenwood Avenue on the downtown end are where the bars are. Some info:
Downtown Raleigh - Live | Work | Play
http://www.godowntownraleigh.com/at-ease
http://www.downtownraleigh.com/play/list/?t=Drink - bars
http://raleigh.citysearch.com/list/106711 - bars

As far as housing -- There are "Raleigh Apartments" (I think that's the name) next door to Broughton High School in the St. Mary's/Peace Street area. They are VERY old, have no central air, and no dishwashers, but they are very reasonable, and the tenants seem very happy. You can walk to bars from there, too. My son lived there (he just graduated from NC State) with a roommate, and he was quite happy.

There are also very nice apartment complexes with all the amenities (gym, pool) in the Glenwood/Lead Mine Road area -- and all over Raleigh.

There are many shared rental homes around NC State. I always think of them as party houses, though. I don't know what the reality is.

And you can always catch Durham Bulls baseball games; they have a beautiful ball park. In Raleigh, though, there seems to be more enthusiasm for sports during hockey and basketball season.

It gets cold here in the winter and sometimes snows, but you can get away with never wearing gloves, and never, ever wearing boots. You usually don't need anything heavier than a leather jacket.
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Old 08-05-2009, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Definitely do not count on being granted NC resident status even 12 months after living here...I knew folks in grad school who tried every trick in the book and never got it the whole 2+ years they were here.

But you'd want to "put down roots" every way you could, in that regard--register to vote here, join a church if that's your thing and/or a volunteer organization, learn as much as you can about the area, etc. None of these is a guarantee, but you need to understand that it's NC taxpayers' money that allows in-state tuition to be cheaper so the state institutions are seerving as stewards of the taxpayers by making it a difficult process to get through.
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Old 08-05-2009, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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As far as housing -- There are "Raleigh Apartments" (I think that's the name) next door to Broughton High School in the St. Mary's/Peace Street area. They are VERY old, have no central air, and no dishwashers, but they are very reasonable, and the tenants seem very happy. You can walk to bars from there, too. My son lived there (he just graduated from NC State) with a roommate, and he was quite happy.

There are also very nice apartment complexes with all the amenities (gym, pool) in the Glenwood/Lead Mine Road area -- and all over Raleigh.
So would those apartments be in a more "urban" area? Not that I'm opposed to something suburban, but right now I live in center city Philadelphia so I'm just kind of used to thinking of things in walking distance, on a grid, with a bus (or subway) stop. Though I'll be bringing my car with me because I hear it's impossible to live without one in Raleigh.

I completely forgot about the Durham Bulls! That almost makes my day. Are they a big deal in the area? I am a HUGE baseball fan (won't be switching my allegiance to the Braves, though ). Not too much of a hockey fan but I think that's because I've never really gone to a game or even watched one really. Breaking those northern stereotypes one at a time. College basketball is my "between baseball seasons" sanity, so I'm excited to be in the backyard of Duke and UNC....and I'll be going to some games

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But you'd want to "put down roots" every way you could, in that regard--register to vote here, join a church if that's your thing and/or a volunteer organization, learn as much as you can about the area, etc. None of these is a guarantee, but you need to understand that it's NC taxpayers' money that allows in-state tuition to be cheaper so the state institutions are seerving as stewards of the taxpayers by making it a difficult process to get through.
Like I said earlier, I'm moving not only for the education but also just to relocate to North Carolina itself. I lived there briefly before (in Charlotte, though) and I absolutely loved it. I'm going to try basically every way to prove that to them, from the driver's license and vehicle registration, to the fact that I'll be working there and paying state income tax, to my apartment lease (eventually) and utilities, my voter registration, and since it's an election year and I generally am pretty involved, I hope to occupy myself working for one of the local senate campaigns -- and voting! Hopefully that will be enough. I'm not trying to scam the system, I promise.
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