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Old 03-24-2010, 10:48 PM
 
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I wonder why they switched to mulch as it can be quite flammable as well?
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Old 03-25-2010, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Morrisville, NC
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The reason they want to stop using pinestraw is because on a windy day like the day of the fire, a discarded cigarette can easily blow into another area. It does not have to be thrown directly into the pinestraw. Also, mulch is much less flammable, especially in starting a fire from a small source like a cigarette and might smolder, but will not rapidly catch fire like in this case.

As far as lot size, it is not helping, but on a windy day, cinders can easily jump from house to house even if they are further apart like in older subdivisions.
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Old 03-25-2010, 08:26 AM
 
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I think it is crazy to think that they would ever outlaw pinestraw, that will never happen.
The movement has already started. Chapel Hill banned it around commercial buildings, town homes and apartment complexes in 2007.

Safety Fears Prompt Ban on Flammable Pine Straw
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Old 03-25-2010, 08:29 AM
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Location: Raleigh, NC
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The movement has already started. Chapel Hill banned it around commercial buildings, town homes and apartment complexes in 2007.

Safety Fears Prompt Ban on Flammable Pine Straw
I don't think you can go off what Chapel Hill does! They do everything crazy.
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Old 03-25-2010, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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I'm not so sure about that. I see some leanings.

For example, townhomes in Apex are no longer allowed to use pinestraw near the buildings. So the subdivisions had to switch to mulch (at a 50% increase in cost). It would be better to outlaw smoking near the pine straw and the buildings! In my opinion, it's not "stupid pine straw" as much as it is "stupid littering irresponsible smokers". Smokers throwing cigarettes off balconies and out windows and off decks is a MAJOR problem for managers at townhomes and condos. You'd think throwing their nasty butts all over the streets would be enough for them, but no- they want to come home and ruin their neighborhoods too. Disgusting.
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Old 03-25-2010, 07:41 PM
 
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Years back they did not use garbage wood and garbage pine straw for mulch. They used live stuff like pacasandra, Ivy and other ground covers. It was green and alive. But dummies decided it would be great to sell ground up waste wood and pine needles that fall from the trees at 4 bucks a bag. Odd.
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Old 03-25-2010, 08:37 PM
 
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Under PSI - thx for sharing. Your post has comments that say the fire dept had water pressure problems..hmm? It's strange that there are at least 3 fire depts within a 3-4 mins emergency drive from the subdiv. The one on buffaloe, one on New Hope Rd at 401, One on Forestville and I think one further up Forestville on the west side of the subdiv.

Was the reason the homes burned this badly because nobody saw it until it was engulfed?
There was no real problem with water pressure other than there were 7 hydrants being used. When using that much water, pressure has no choice but to get low.

The reason the fire got that bad was a combination of factors. Dormant bermuda grass next to pine straw, pine straw next to vinyl siding, strong wind and low humidity. Almost the exact same problem as the fire off Capital Blvd. a few years ago.
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Old 03-25-2010, 09:02 PM
 
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Years back they did not use garbage wood and garbage pine straw for mulch. They used live stuff like pacasandra, Ivy and other ground covers. It was green and alive. But dummies decided it would be great to sell ground up waste wood and pine needles that fall from the trees at 4 bucks a bag. Odd.
Dumb to sell it or dumb to buy it? Seems like the folks selling it were pretty smart.
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Old 03-25-2010, 09:03 PM
 
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It would be better to outlaw smoking near the pine straw and the buildings!
Seriously? You think a law will stop it? As if we don't have enough obscure laws nobody knows about already. Why don't we just make a law saying everyone has to have common sense.
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