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As far as State never being relevant in basketball, that simply isn't true.
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Although I grew up in Raleigh my folk were from Wilson County. we didn't call soft drinks "coke" we just said "drink". Same with my wife from Washington County.
Raleighmark, I agree on both these counts. I went to UNC in the early 80s and when we sang the fight song, it was "Go To H*ll State" instead of "Go to H*ll Dook"! That was in one of State's heydays with Jimmy V and the '83 National Championship team. We definitely hated State more than Duke then, hard as it is to believe, just because Dook sucked then. It wasn't that we liked Dook, they just weren't a threat then.
I also grew up in NC saying "drink" instead of "coke" (unless I was talking about a Co-Cola), or "soft drink" or "soda" or "pop".
As far as State never being relevant in basketball, that simply isn't true. They do have two National Championship under their belt. It was Everett Case and N.C. State that brought big time basketball to the State of North Carolina in the '50s forcing Carolina to hire Frank Mcguire to catch up. The Dixie Classic held in Reynolds Coliseum was one of the most prestigious tournaments in the nation.
Although I grew up in Raleigh my folk were from Wilson County. we didn't call soft drinks "coke" we just said "drink". Same with my wife from Washington County.
That's right. It was Everette Case that started all this madness, and it was State that set the standard to follow. I have attended both the Dixie Classic and the ACC Tournament in Reynolds in the 50's and 60's. I became a Duke fan at my first ACC Tournament(early 60's) at Reynolds. I can't remember who they were playing, but when Duke came out on the court for warmups, everybody in the place stood up and booed them and told them "where to go" I at that moment became a lifelong Duke fan
I always use "drink" and if anyone knows me they know I mean a Coke
Raleighmark, I agree on both these counts. I went to UNC in the early 80s and when we sang the fight song, it was "Go To H*ll State" instead of "Go to H*ll Dook"! That was in one of State's heydays with Jimmy V and the '83 National Championship team. We definitely hated State more than Duke then, hard as it is to believe, just because Dook sucked then. It wasn't that we liked Dook, they just weren't a threat then.
I also grew up in NC saying "drink" instead of "coke" (unless I was talking about a Co-Cola), or "soft drink" or "soda" or "pop".
Yes. When I was a kid I rooted for Duke because it seemed like a more neutral choice than taking sides the State/Carolina basketball feud. I graduated from high school in Raleigh in '83 and have very fond memories of State winning the national championship that year.
This thread is awesome. I learned something new - that "bless your heart" at the beginning of the sentence may not be an insult! I'd assumed it always was. Hee. It's my favorite insult.
I've heard it said at the end of a sentence where I'm *sure* it wasn't used as an insult, though - not to me, but about someone - is it always an insult at the end ? For example, my former boss is a Raleigh native and she would say it at the end of a sentence when we were discussing someone ill or struggling in some way.
That is precisely the beauty of the term "bless your/his/her heart". It's usually truly a term expressing sympathy, but if it is being used an insult, you'll never know it. It doesn't matter when it comes in the sentence.
I think more commonly, if someone uses it at the beginning of a sentence, It's because they know what they are about to say: "bless his heart, his parents spent all that money on private school but he's just not the brightest tool in the shed.". Versus at the end of a sentence, is usually a realization what what you just said might be interpreted wrongly, and by throwing in "bless his heart", it absolves you of being mean spirited. "that is one hideous looking dog, bless his heart"
I would say that "bless your/his/her heart" is usually an expression of sympathy regardless of where it comes in the sentence. IMO both of your examples are used as an expression of sympathy. They are sympathetic that he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.
You're allowed to bad mouth the pollen trees... I mean the pine trees this time of year! Everyone hates them 2 weeks out of the year, it's OK, you can just say "bless their hearts" after you say how they messed up your car and made your eyes puffy!
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I at that moment became a lifelong Duke fan
