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Old 04-09-2015, 11:25 PM
 
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Which cities have housing courts or civil courts that are not too hostile towards the landlord? Like what cities would landlords say they love to operate in if they have lousy tenants, whether they be for non-payment, illegal sublet, etc.

I have heard many cities are not so bad, and the judges are quite fair, reasonable and intelligent. NYC IS NOT SUCH A CITY. I was just in housing court today. And it is pretty routine. Tenant makes up lies, or excuses, the judge adjoins for another three to four weeks for the liars to get there stuff together. Next time, they make up some other excuse to not attend, judge give them another three to four weeks. Tenant makes up another lie, and judge gives them another three to four weeks to gather her "evidence". Next time, they come unprepared, and judge has to be "fair" and adjourn again.

Has anyone heard of something like this in another big city? How would you rank other major metros?
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Old 04-13-2015, 09:11 AM
 
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I would have to say that all cities would be fair including NYC.

Why !!!

"If" the LL is honest, takes pictures before and after, treats the tenants correctly and with respect even though you'll have to bite your lip with dealing with many of them and returns calls, then I don't see a problem.

Yes many tenants can be a pain but with the above and follow the laws in your state, you can't loose !!

The things that will "always" help the LL, will be communicating through emails and saving your phone records that show you did return their calls.
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Old 04-13-2015, 11:14 AM
 
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If a city has set up a "housing" court, its all you need to know. It's hostile to landlords, especially small landlords. The bigger the city the worse it is. The more regulation there is, it only puts the burden on landlords, never tenants.

Designed mostly to drive out small landlords by big landlords and tenant groups. So it often makes a problem worse, or creates a problem where there wasn't one as small landlords move on to greener places or just quit.

The irony is: it drives the best landlords out of a place, and all you end up with are large landlords and management companies. And those companies are the ones that are often the worst landlords.
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Old 04-13-2015, 11:19 AM
 
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I would have to say that all cities would be fair including NYC.

Why !!!

"If" the LL is honest, takes pictures before and after, treats the tenants correctly and with respect even though you'll have to bite your lip with dealing with many of them and returns calls, then I don't see a problem.

Yes many tenants can be a pain but with the above and follow the laws in your state, you can't loose !!

The things that will "always" help the LL, will be communicating through emails and saving your phone records that show you did return their calls.
Obviously, you have never been a landlord.
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Old 04-14-2015, 07:54 PM
 
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If a city has set up a "housing" court, its all you need to know. It's hostile to landlords, especially small landlords. The bigger the city the worse it is. The more regulation there is, it only puts the burden on landlords, never tenants.

Designed mostly to drive out small landlords by big landlords and tenant groups. So it often makes a problem worse, or creates a problem where there wasn't one as small landlords move on to greener places or just quit.

The irony is: it drives the best landlords out of a place, and all you end up with are large landlords and management companies. And those companies are the ones that are often the worst landlords.
Perhaps, but I have spoken to many people in the biz from elsewhere than NYC, and they say evictions are much swifter, and no jerking around by the tenant or the judges.

NYC housing courts can jerk around LL for years honestly. They let the defendants get away with all sort of frauds, and delaying tactics.
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Old 04-14-2015, 11:42 PM
 
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Which cities have housing courts or civil courts that are not too hostile towards the landlord?
According to landlords in every city and state, their courts always favor the tenant. According to tenants in every city and state, their courts always favor the landlord. The belief of how a court favors a party is based on the oldest legal concept in the world: courts favor the wining side and is hostile to the losing side. It doesn't mater who is the landlord and who is the tenant, the loser always blames favoritism. That is just the reality of being a landlord.

I do not find NYC's Housing Courts any more lenient or stricter to one party or the other. I do find that many landlords in NYC are ignorant of the law and even more so of the rules of the court. I see many who simply underestimated the other side and get plain old bent out of shape when the other party is sharper.

You may get a judge who will grant for no reason but to give the tenant a fair shot, but after one delay for not being prepared, the objections and motions should squash any further delays.
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