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It is a detached single family home, two stories with a basement. No shared walls, and there is decent space between the houses. The association apparently has both attached townhomes and detached single family homes, so that may be why the wording in the CC&R is as it is, since it has to cover both detached and attached. It does specifically say that structural and interior repairs are the responsibility of the home owner, but it sounds that if the owner does not resolve the issues then the association can complete the repairs and assess a fee to the owner.
It is 38 pages, and the main purpose of making this thread was to see if I was being unreasonable in walking away from the house merely because of an HOA, but if anybody is legitimately interested in viewing the bylaws and CC&R, here is a link:
1. Have your attorney discuss the real world materiality of the provisions with you.
2. I am GUESSING after skimming it, that the homes are very nicely maintained, and the Association is empowered to continue that. If you charred the paint off your house because you put your grille to close to it, or you busted in your front storm door, and you failed to make repairs, the association appears to have the authority to make that repair. It is just one way to keep up the beauty of a neighborhood.
3. And, many people would not hesitate to live with those provisions. If it isn't for you, no harm, no foul. Move on to the next.
Most HOA's are pretty laid back and a necessity to keep neighborhood looking good hence resale values intact. You don't want your house value to go down because nobody wants to live next to your neighbor's crappy house. Do you?
OMG, my BS detector just started screeching so loud that I can barely hear now. Do you happen to work for an property management company or are you just really naive?
if anybody is legitimately interested in viewing the bylaws and CC&R,
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While the 3% max annual increase sounds good today, what happens if inflation hits 10% for a few years? I guarantee you that more than 1/3 will not vote for a >3% increase.
OMG, my BS detector just started screeching so loud that I can barely hear now. Do you happen to work for an property management company or are you just really naive?
I didn't post what you originally replied to, but believe me, that happens. I was looking at a house last weekend in the downtown area of one of the nicest suburbs in Chicago. The house was built last year and was very high end. The next door neighbor's house, however, was a disaster. The yard looked like something out of hoarders. The owners of the nice house didn't take that into account in pricing their house at all, but buyers will and no one is going to pay them close to what they are asking based on that neighbor alone.
I personally don't love HOA's and would rather not have one, but they can have value and make sense for some people.
People can debate forever the the merits or lack of of a HOA.
However, the deal breaker for me would be allowing access to a single family, detached home. This is really unusual. No way would I agree to that. That means you either have to give them a key to hold or you're giving them permission to break in.
People can debate forever the the merits or lack of of a HOA.
However, the deal breaker for me would be allowing access to a single family, detached home. This is really unusual. No way would I agree to that. That means you either have to give them a key to hold or you're giving them permission to break in.
I'd walk away and find someplace else.
If giving a key is accurate, I would agree it would be a deal breaker.
However, that assumption is an over-reaction to the community position, I would be willing to bet.
I didn't post what you originally replied to, but believe me, that happens. I was looking at a house last weekend in the downtown area of one of the nicest suburbs in Chicago. The house was built last year and was very high end. The next door neighbor's house, however, was a disaster. The yard looked like something out of hoarders. The owners of the nice house didn't take that into account in pricing their house at all, but buyers will and no one is going to pay them close to what they are asking based on that neighbor alone.
I personally don't love HOA's and would rather not have one, but they can have value and make sense for some people.
Most towns, all you'd have to do is contact the health department or whatever department has responsibility over situations like this. I don't know if they have any actual legal right to force the people to clean it up but they'll make a visit and make recommendations at least.
We don't have hoa's around here, thank goodness. I would much rather live next to someone who plants flowers that I don't like or washes their car in their own driveway on weekend afternoons than sacrifice my sense of control over my own home. You people who live in states that have hoa's should fight to get rid of them and take control. Just reading about them is unsettling.
Most towns, all you'd have to do is contact the health department or whatever department has responsibility over situations like this. I don't know if they have any actual legal right to force the people to clean it up but they'll make a visit and make recommendations at least.
We don't have hoa's around here, thank goodness. I would much rather live next to someone who plants flowers that I don't like or washes their car in their own driveway on weekend afternoons than sacrifice my sense of control over my own home. You people who live in states that have hoa's should fight to get rid of them and take control. Just reading about them is unsettling.
I like HOAs in many regards, and have never lived in a neighborhood with an HOA. Don't really want to.
Had a couple of rental condos with Association and Property Managers. Completely necessary in a condominium complex.
HOAs keep my taxes down, as the residents support their own amenities in their own neighborhoods. They pay for their own playgrounds, swimming pools, clubhouses, walking trails, stormwater BMPs, common landscaping. That allows me to choose to live in a neighborhood with no common area, and no HOA, and to be taxed at a lower level than if the municipality managed those amenities I would not use and passed the cost to me.
Additionally, HOAs support my property value. Backlash against HOAs has grown to where nice neighborhoods without HOAs are desirable for the lack of HOAs, helping with resale values. I'll take it.
Here is what you do, buy the house and volunteer to be on the HOA board. Learn what they do/don't do and how. Be involved, be a team player or even a leader. Then you won't be uneasy anymore.
In my experience the majority of people who hate HOA's are the one who want to do whatever they want plus have everyone else do things to their satisfaction without having to actually do anything or get involved, ever, themselves. Some folks just like to complain.
Additionally, HOAs support my property value. Backlash against HOAs has grown to where nice neighborhoods without HOAs are desirable for the lack of HOAs, helping with resale values. I'll take it.
So, in essence, one reason to like HOAs is because a lot of people don't like them!
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