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Old 12-02-2015, 07:40 AM
 
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Bipolar doesn't mean changing one's mind.

You do get the part you played in his decision making process, right? He wants to leave, you want him out. He says he can not afford to move with the penalties you will impose. You refuse to budge. If he can't afford it, then he can't afford it and he has no choice but to stay despite the serious health concerns your unit poses.
We never talked about no penalties. That was supposed to happen today. But he cancelled the meeting. I never told him about the penalty. I told him let's meet with my attorney and my fiancee and your wife and come to a middle ground.

He never gave me the chance.
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Old 12-02-2015, 08:15 AM
 
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At this point I want them out. He is clearly not all mentally there.

So you think he's mental because he cannot stand cigarette smoke? Nice.


How about next time, properly vetting your place so you can tell your future tenants the truth about their living conditions.


I would be furious if I spent a ton of money moving and wound up above a nasty smoker.
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Old 12-02-2015, 08:33 AM
 
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So you think he's mental because he cannot stand cigarette smoke? Nice.


How about next time, properly vetting your place so you can tell your future tenants the truth about their living conditions.


I would be furious if I spent a ton of money moving and wound up above a nasty smoker.
If that is the case by all means move to a SMOKE FREE place.

I cannot control what other people do. If he wants to leave, I will let him leave. I cannot harass my neighbors specially if their smoking is within the law.
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Old 12-02-2015, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Austintown, OH
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SmartMoney, we rarely disagree; however, you and the OP are not seeing the big picture.

Being a landlord is being in business. What is the primary goal of a business? TO MAKE A PROFIT.

Exactly what PROFIT will be made by the business (the landlord) if the tenants trash the place? Or don't pay the rent and require months of legal maneuvers and attorney fees to legally evict them? What PROFIT will made by having the tenants arrested!

And yeah, I know the lease says they are responsible to pay for damages, the legal expenses, etc. So what? You think the landlord is EVER going to collect a dime of it?

OP - get your head straight. It's a business, it's not personal. The ONLY winner is the one who has the money. The rest is irrelevant. And if you can't think that way, you shouldn't be a landlord.
Totally agree with this.. Sometimes you have to take a "loss", what's right and just be damned. It will not be worth the hassle. If they spent all of their money moving, that tells me they won't be able to (or just wont) pay a fine or judgment either, so, I'd work out something where they leave and you keep the 1st Month and Deposit provided no damages and just be done with it.
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Old 12-02-2015, 08:40 AM
 
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Totally agree with this.. Sometimes you have to take a "loss", what's right and just be damned. It will not be worth the hassle. If they spent all of their money moving, that tells me they won't be able to (or just wont) pay a fine or judgment either, so, I'd work out something where they leave and you keep the 1st Month and Deposit provided no damages and just be done with it.
They do not want to leave now. They want to stay. Can I legally ask them to go? I don't think I can.
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Old 12-02-2015, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Austintown, OH
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At this point, I wouldn't, because that then puts the onus on you.

I didn't see that he said that until after I posted.. I wonder if, initially, it was a ploy to see if you would lower the rent?

Did you contact any of his previous landlords? If so, what did they say?
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Old 12-02-2015, 08:44 AM
 
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At this point, I wouldn't, because that then puts the onus on you.

I didn't see that he said that until after I posted.. I wonder if, initially, it was a ploy to see if you would lower the rent?

Did you contact any of his previous landlords? If so, what did they say?
I did not contact the previous landlords. I ran their application thru housery.com and they came back great.

I did read a review about the place they left, that you can hear everything and smell smoke constantly. They were there 4 years and apparently it was never an issue.

So I guess it is an issue in my condo. But not in the previous one.
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Old 12-02-2015, 08:48 AM
 
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If that is the case by all means move to a SMOKE FREE place.

I cannot control what other people do. If he wants to leave, I will let him leave. I cannot harass my neighbors specially if their smoking is within the law.

What I am saying is, NEXT TIME be honest about your neighbors and tell your future tenants that they will be living above a smoker.


You might not be able to do anything about it, but leaving out such a very important bit of information might just save you from having this happen again.
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Old 12-02-2015, 08:59 AM
 
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What I am saying is, NEXT TIME be honest about your neighbors and tell your future tenants that they will be living above a smoker.


You might not be able to do anything about it, but leaving out such a very important bit of information might just save you from having this happen again.
There is not a next time. We are selling the condo after this. When I bought it no one disclose anything to me and given that it is a condo I assumed the responsibility for my actions.

If this gentleman wants to leave I hope he just calls me and says we want to go; I will be more than happy to see him out of my life.
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Old 12-02-2015, 09:00 AM
 
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What I am saying is, NEXT TIME be honest about your neighbors and tell your future tenants that they will be living above a smoker.


You might not be able to do anything about it, but leaving out such a very important bit of information might just save you from having this happen again.
my condo was vacant, I was not living there. I do not know what my neighbors do.
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