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Builders already have to provide runoff and retention solutions. What, exactly, does the HOA provide that isn't already a code requirement for all builders?
You can't just build it once and then forget about it - storm water management resources have to be properly maintained and regularly checked
OK, I'll say it this way: Exactly as it was done before the General Assembly decided to get involved
HOA neighborhoods still can do things like they want to and hoods that don't want to can party like it's 1999. I haven't seen any large existing non-HOA neighborhoods washing away or anything. Have you?
Oops again. You don't seem to know what storm water controls do. It's to protect the rivers and streams. Older homes don't mitigate this impact. Newer ones do.
The builder installs the measure (like a detention pond). But they require $$ and maintenance. It's the residents of the neighborhood that are responsible for this. The vehicle is the HOA.
You can't just build it once and then forget about it - storm water management resources have to be properly maintained and regularly checked
So the sole argument for mandating these little invasive strong-arm governments that exist outside of municipal control and constitutional oversight is so someone maintains the retention pond? There has got to be a simpler way.
So the sole argument for mandating these little invasive strong-arm governments that exist outside of municipal control and constitutional oversight is so someone maintains the retention pond? There has got to be a simpler way.
I give up
Btw, I got contacted the other day about helping out with my neighborhood HOA since many of the board members own the property as investment properties and live somewhere else. I'll let you know how my apparently dictatorship and gestapo run HOA goes
Oops again. You don't seem to know what storm water controls do. It's to protect the rivers and streams. Older homes don't mitigate this impact. Newer ones do.
The builder installs the measure (like a detention pond). But they require $$ and maintenance. It's the residents of the neighborhood that are responsible for this. The vehicle is the HOA.
Keep trying....
So should I assume that this is what all states require? How is it any better than a tax? It's still a mandatory cost, but with a whole lot more strings attached. Why not charge for it like any other service. Water, trash, runoff control...
A board, bylaws, bureaucracy, meetings, overhead costs just for a little old pond?
So the sole argument for mandating these little invasive strong-arm governments that exist outside of municipal control and constitutional oversight is so someone maintains the retention pond? There has got to be a simpler way.
No, but it is an important one. If you can think of a better way to ensure maintenance that will not result in the burden being shifted to the local government and taxpayers at large I'm sure the General Assembly would love to hear from you.
Oops. Wrong answer. Storm water wasn't identified as an issue back then, but it is now. Older neighborhoods don't have storm water controls. Newer neighborhoods do. You can't get rid of the HOA unless you adress this too. You do support protecting the environment?
Please try again.
These folks pay taxes. No reason local government shouldn't be responsible for storm water controls.
"Protecting the environment" is not an excuse for treating the people living in a newer subdivision as third class citizens.
So should I assume that this is what all states require? How is it any better than a tax? It's still a mandatory cost, but with a whole lot more strings attached. Why not charge for it like any other service. Water, trash, runoff control...
Because it's not a fixed cost like trash etc. It varies by neighborhood.... and there are a lot of them.
You think you are the first person to try and Crack this nut. There is no easy solution. Right now the HOA option is the best WORKING solution to the problem.
Btw, I got contacted the other day about helping out with my neighborhood HOA since many of the board members own the property as investment properties and live somewhere else. I'll let you know how my apparently dictatorship and gestapo run HOA goes
You should put the sex offender thing up for a vote!
Do most states have as many "subdivisions" as North Carolina does? When I lived in the Boston area - granted the neighborhoods were older and more established but there definitely didn't seem to be the popularity of the massive housing development with cookie cutter houses that look the same. (From my planning/transportation perspective, I hate subdivisions in that they are not connected to each other and prevent alternative cut-through routes to major arterials.)
How were older non-HOA neighborhoods established? This is a question I would like to be answered as opposed to what is going on now with developers. (I wasn't alive then)
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