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Old 08-04-2017, 10:41 PM
 
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I always heard it is better to be a homeowner, but what if you want to live in an area you can't afford to buy in?

My husband and I pay $3500 a month in rent to live in a great area.
We have $120,000 saved up for a down payment. Unfortunately, studios go for $715K plus HOA/maintenance fees in the region of the city we are in love with. So those numbers don't work for us. We don't want a studio, want at least a 1BR preferably 2.

However, we could easily move to the suburbs and buy a piece of land with a nice little 3 BR house on it with our 120K down payment and be paying less than $3500/mo in mortgage. But we wouldn't be living exactly where we want to live with our awesome pedestrian commutes to work.

Just wondering if it is foolish to pay rent and live where we want when we can afford to buy (albeit somewhere else.)

When the little ones come along, we will likely migrate to the suburbs as everyone else does. But many of my friends and siblings chose to buy sooner rather than later I guess for good financial sense. Of course, they're not spending any more than we can on down payment / mortgage.

When is the best time to buy: when you can or when you want to move to a town you can afford?

Before getting married, I couldn't afford to buy my own place. So it seems weird to me to be able to buy, but still be a renter.
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Old 08-05-2017, 12:44 AM
 
Location: on the wind
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Remember to add in the other costs of owning a home.....homeowner's insurance, property taxes, maintenance and repair,. Those costs are covered by your rent now. Also any utilities that you might not be paying in your rental. What will your new commute cost you? Will you need a second car? And, if there isn't enough cushion above and beyond your expenses you could end up not being able to keep up the mortgage in an emergency (lost job, health problems, unanticipated budget problems) you could lose the house altogether. Are you planning to stay put in that new house for years or moving on fairly soon? Its easy to pack up and move out of a rental, but when you own the home you could take a loss if selling it before you have equity built up.
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Old 08-05-2017, 02:56 AM
 
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Live where you want to live (as long as you can afford it). The financial arrangement (i.e. owning vs renting, sharing, etc) is just the detail that enables you to live where you want to live. Choosing a place to live based on the financial arrangement is 'cart before horse', 'tail wagging dog'.

To be clear, i'm not talking about affordability as affordability does matter in the equation. It's easy to compare the costs between renting and buying. Just figure out how much each month you will put toward principal the first year if you buy. if your mortgage is 3,500 per month, you will 'save' very roughly 1,300 per month (30 yr mortgage) into principal with the rest going to interest. You might pay close to that amount in the additional expenses that Allison mentions so you might find that in the first year or two, the costs to own (mortgage interest amount plus property tax plus insurance, plus other expenses) are about the same as renting. But you can easily run the numbers. The delta would be the amount it's costing you to live in the city vs the suburbs and then you can gauge the affordability. If it's very close, then it's just 'financial arrangement detail'.

You can afford to live where you want to live as long as you rent so this seems like a no brainer. From your post, it seems very clear to me that at this point, you do not want to live in the suburbs.

Don't worry if some people think that you rent only because you can't afford to own. Most people in large, expensive cities know better. Anyway, it's quickly becoming common for people to divert from the usual prescribed pathway of school, rent for a few years in the city, marry, buy house in suburb, babies, buy bigger home, ...
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Old 08-05-2017, 04:10 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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I always heard it is better to be a homeowner, but what if you want to live in an area you can't afford to buy in?

My husband and I pay $3500 a month in rent to live in a great area.
We have $120,000 saved up for a down payment. Unfortunately, studios go for $715K plus HOA/maintenance fees in the region of the city we are in love with. So those numbers don't work for us. We don't want a studio, want at least a 1BR preferably 2.

However, we could easily move to the suburbs and buy a piece of land with a nice little 3 BR house on it with our 120K down payment and be paying less than $3500/mo in mortgage. But we wouldn't be living exactly where we want to live with our awesome pedestrian commutes to work.

Just wondering if it is foolish to pay rent and live where we want when we can afford to buy (albeit somewhere else.)

When the little ones come along, we will likely migrate to the suburbs as everyone else does. But many of my friends and siblings chose to buy sooner rather than later I guess for good financial sense. Of course, they're not spending any more than we can on down payment / mortgage.

When is the best time to buy: when you can or when you want to move to a town you can afford?

Before getting married, I couldn't afford to buy my own place. So it seems weird to me to be able to buy, but still be a renter.
When WILL "the little ones come along?"
If you decide the burbs are your familial destination, and that is likely to happen within a couple of years, you might start looking now to make a good choice.

Two people moving is easier than 2/1/1 people moving....

But, you love where you are. That speaks volumes. If you are able to pay the rent and continue to save, why rush?
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Old 08-05-2017, 04:43 AM
 
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You could always skip "the little ones" part and live the life you're loving. Really.
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Old 08-05-2017, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Back in the Mitten. Formerly NC
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Don't buy if you don't want to. You will likely regret it. Plus, it is a seller's market across most of the country- meaning it benefits the seller, not the buyer. By the time you are ready to buy, it may be a buyer's market, or at least a neutral one.
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Old 08-05-2017, 06:41 AM
 
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Buy when you can. Prices are only going up. Mortgages stay the same for the life of the loan except for taxes and insurance. Rents go up. After you buy in 10 years your mortgage should be a lot lower than the going rents, in 20 years your mortgage will be very easy to make and in 30 years it's all yours, just make sure you get a good inspection so that all the expensive things such as roof, heating and cooling, electric and plumbing are all in good order before you buy.
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Old 08-05-2017, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Myrtle Beach
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Personally, if you like where you live right now, stay there. If you want to test out the move, check into a hotel in the burbs for a week. Commute to and from work everyday. Both drive and take public transit (if available). People who have never lived in a walkable city underestimate how it can add to the quality of life. In most suburbs you will need 2 cars, so if you only have one now, factor in increase in gas costs, car payments and insurance.
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Old 08-05-2017, 10:56 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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I always heard it is better to be a homeowner,
but what if you want to live in an area you can't afford to buy in?
Too many will define this word to suit their personal choices and preferences.
Finding an objective definition is NOT easy but most of the old school measures got real close.

Stick to the old school measures and you'll be able to afford to have more than a house.
That's a good thing to have more in your life than just a house.
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Because most of the old school measures were created BEFORE retirement funding had become
a personal responsibility it's important to account for these costs on your own. With that in mind
any calculations you do really must be based on NET income after IRA, 401K, HSA, etc.

Because most of the old school measures were created BEFORE a second earner was so common
it's important to account for these increases to net household income by NOT including one of them;
or at least to not include all of the second income.

These are personal choices and preferences that suit me and my outlook in these matters.
Go along with them or don't... but for your own sake do so consciously.
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Net of mandated deductions (tax FICA etc) and net of volunteered contributions
and net of any other deductions whether you like them or not (lien/garnishment etc).

Housing costs (renting too) of PITI, HOA, utility bills and any other repeating costs
that you don't have a choice about in order to have a normal modern life.

Old school: onene ratio (12/52's) comes out to 23% of net income.
How many of your weekly net paycheck 's are required to pay your monthly housing costs?
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Old 08-05-2017, 01:15 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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Mortgages stay the same for the life of the loan
FIXED rate mortgages stay the same for the life of the loan. Variable rate mortgages do not!
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