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Old 05-24-2018, 08:20 AM
 
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Between rising interest rates, stagnant wages, and now the Dodd Frank issue...housing will slowly implode again. If you are able to wait it out and buy with cash, you might get a great deal in a year or two.
You might get to pay more for that house in a year or two....
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Old 05-24-2018, 08:41 AM
 
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Banks are all so inter-connected, one falls, they all fall.

I wonder when Deutsche will.
Timely post.
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Old 05-24-2018, 09:39 AM
 
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Debt reset.
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Old 05-24-2018, 09:56 AM
 
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People who were caught in the 2008 crash are spooked that a 2017 bubble will lead to another crash. But it was caused by forces that are no longer present. Credit default swaps insured derivatives such as mortgage-backed securities. Hedge fund managers created a huge demand for these supposedly risk-free securities.

https://www.thebalance.com/is-the-re...-crash-4153139
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Old 05-24-2018, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Following a review of the business, the number of jobs in Deutsche's equities sales and trading business is being cut by a quarter.

The bank - which employs 8,500 people in the UK - did not say which countries would be affected by the job cuts.

Deutsche Bank employs about 66,000 people in Europe - including 42,000 in Germany, 21,000 in Asia and about 10,000 in North America.
I can't say I know how that effects the US housing market. In my market, I've never seen a Deutsche mortgage.
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Old 05-24-2018, 05:15 PM
 
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They're connected, all banks are inter-connected. LIBOR ceases in 2021, SOFR replaces it. Things will be interesting, to say the least.


https://www.thetruthaboutmortgage.co...bor-goes-away/

Deutsche Bank 7.2 billion dollar "pay out."

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...XVFuM8H1eES9Hn

As this isn't the "Are we on the cusp of global collapse?" thread, I'll stop here.
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Old 05-24-2018, 06:21 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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People who were caught in the 2008 crash are spooked that a 2017 bubble will lead to another crash. But it was caused by forces that are no longer present. Credit default swaps insured derivatives such as mortgage-backed securities. Hedge fund managers created a huge demand for these supposedly risk-free securities.

https://www.thebalance.com/is-the-re...-crash-4153139
Promissory notes backed by mortgages are still sold by originating institutions before the borrower's ink is dry. The exact triggers for the 2007 and 2008 collapse may not exist but the economic background is still there.



The biggest determination of the likelihood of promissory notes backed by mortgages, and credit card debt, is the willingness and ability of the borrowers to pay. Traditionally lenders held the paper they generated so the lenders "knew their borrowers" and lent to worthy borrowers. Lender are still "flipping" their paper, so the lending officers don't actually care one way or another if the borrower has the moral fiber to pay their debts.
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Old 05-24-2018, 06:42 PM
 
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People who were caught in the 2008 crash are spooked that a 2017 bubble will lead to another crash. But it was caused by forces that are no longer present. Credit default swaps insured derivatives such as mortgage-backed securities. Hedge fund managers created a huge demand for these supposedly risk-free securities.

https://www.thebalance.com/is-the-re...-crash-4153139
No. The mortgagees aren't even remotely close to finished with the houses in default from 10 years ago. Court dockets are choked with them; there's still no closure. Banks and servicers with active foreclosure cases that only await their motion for judgement are just stopping... leaving everyone in limbo. HAMP fraud for many of them will be discovered if the sale goes through and HUD wants to be paid back and so, they just STOP.

This is far from over.
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Old 05-24-2018, 07:07 PM
 
Location: New Yawk
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Between rising interest rates, stagnant wages, and now the Dodd Frank issue...housing will slowly implode again. If you are able to wait it out and buy with cash, you might get a great deal in a year or two.
Not a smart move for renters who are trying to buy a home, because areas with hot real estate markets generally have high rent, too. We’ve been saving for a home for 10 years... and have spent about $150,000 in rent during that time period. If wait another two years, in hopes of a crash that probably won’t happen, we’ll have spent an additional $43,000 in rent. Meanwhile, it’s not even Friday and we’ve already been outbid twice this week, and had two other homes get accepted offers in the time it took for our agent to get the lock box codes and drive across town to meet us.

So, that leaves two viable options:

1. Spend more than we planned to on something we like and is still in our price range, with the potential risk that the value might drop soon (doubtful)

2. Blow tens of thousands more on rent (inevitable)
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Old 05-24-2018, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Berkeley Neighborhood, Denver, CO USA
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At this point, I would like a huge crash in prices.
Why?
Because then this topic of Real Estate would be filled with large numbers of whiners complaining about it.
This topic has become quite boring since 2013.
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