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Old 07-23-2019, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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nope.

the foundation and the roof - though concrete is part of the foundation. what has a larger foundation - a ranch or a 2-story? what has more roof as a % of square footage then, a ranch or a 2-story?

if you want to build as inexpensively as possible, you build what we call a "shoebox ranch" - that's a simple rectangle. you reduce your foundation, and your rooflines that way.
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Old 07-24-2019, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Moku Nui, Hawaii
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Ok since answers are varying wildly.

How about if it costs a builder 250,000 to build a house. All materials and labor. What is a reasonable price to sell that house for a good profit but not gouging people

Whatever the market will bear. The value of a house has nothing to do with the cost to create it.

Usually if there's a huge positive difference between the cost to build and sell, then there will be a lot of contractors out there building. Then there's competition and prices go down. So it all levels itself out eventually.
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Old 07-24-2019, 12:14 AM
 
Location: Moku Nui, Hawaii
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I built a house in '95 for $24 per square foot. 1,200 sq. ft. 3/1 with septic on a flat lot. Poured concrete floor with carpeted living room & bedrooms, roll vinyl in the kitchen and bath. T1-11 siding, nail on windows, upgraded doors, roof rafters delivered to the top of the walls, drywall interior. It was a nice, but basic house. Designed to look nice from the street and have enough room to play pool in the living room, although not much else. BUT I swore like a trooper when I smashed my finger with a 24oz waffle faced framing hammer and it took five months of work. Having someone else build the house will cost more but be a LOT easier.
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Old 07-24-2019, 05:40 PM
 
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nope.

the foundation and the roof - though concrete is part of the foundation. what has a larger foundation - a ranch or a 2-story? what has more roof as a % of square footage then, a ranch or a 2-story?

if you want to build as inexpensively as possible, you build what we call a "shoebox ranch" - that's a simple rectangle. you reduce your foundation, and your rooflines that way.
Concrete is mostly used for foundation no?

Framing is used for the roof no?
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Old 07-25-2019, 03:10 AM
 
Location: Moku Nui, Hawaii
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As usual with houses, the answer is 'it depends'.

A poured concrete foundation is frequently one of the least expensive ways to make a foundation. With a poured concrete slab, you can get a foundation & floor all in one pour. With a concrete slab foundation/floor you don't have to have floor framing which holds up some sort of sub-floor.

Both concrete and a framed floor will usually have some sort of floor covering such as carpet, T & G wood planks, vinyl planks, tile, rolled vinyl, etc., etc.

"Framing" is a construction method, not a specific part of the house. Walls, floors, roofs, etc., can all be framing. Framing is kinda like the skeleton of the house.

The particular framing members used to build a roof are usually either 'rafters' which is a single long board repeated every couple of feet, or 'trusses' which is a built up group of boards, usually in a triangle shape. The trusses are also repeated every couple of feet.

Ortho Press wrote a book called "Basic Home Building" which is pretty clearly written and informative on how to build a house if you've not been around construction very much or built one before.
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Old 07-25-2019, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Concrete is mostly used for foundation no?

Framing is used for the roof no?

a poured slab is cheaper than a crawl-foundation.
framing holds the roof up, but the delta isn't much for corners, butt-outs, etc on a ranch.
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Old 07-25-2019, 10:07 PM
 
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a poured slab is cheaper than a crawl-foundation.
framing holds the roof up, but the delta isn't much for corners, butt-outs, etc on a ranch.
Not true in cold areas of the country. You first have to dig wide trenches usually 4 feet to get below frost line, put up a double wall to hold the poured concrete foundation reinforced with steel re-bar. One reason for basements in cold winter areas, as it does not cost that much more to put in the basement, and raises home value more than extra cost to install basement.

Just pouring a slab only works in warm areas of country.
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Old 07-26-2019, 06:36 AM
 
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Anywhere from $125 a square foot to $350 a square foot. More if you want some better upgrades.


Just that wood floor throughout is going to cost $25,000-$50-000 depending upon which type of wood is used.
For 2500 square feet?

Are you diamond encrusting the wood?

A full 2500 sq foot of hardwood here in the Virginia Beach area is $10k for the builders grade up to $25k for the exotics. Average price for 3/4" oak hardwood is ~15-16k. And that is installed.

If you're spending 25k for the cheap stuff or 50k for the exotics, I hope you're paying in Canadian dollars.
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Old 07-26-2019, 03:03 PM
 
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Not true in cold areas of the country.

Just pouring a slab only works in warm areas of country.
Not true, you could have a slab house in Alaska as long as you have foundation walls and a footing bottom depth below the frost line which varies according to local codes contingent upon weather statistics.
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Old 07-26-2019, 05:23 PM
 
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For 2500 square feet?

Are you diamond encrusting the wood?

A full 2500 sq foot of hardwood here in the Virginia Beach area is $10k for the builders grade up to $25k for the exotics. Average price for 3/4" oak hardwood is ~15-16k. And that is installed.

If you're spending 25k for the cheap stuff or 50k for the exotics, I hope you're paying in Canadian dollars.
Yea I knew that sounded off
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