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Old 11-04-2020, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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I cannot get past two questions rattling around in my cranium...


Was there a real estate agent involved?
OP, did you have a buyers agent?
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Old 11-04-2020, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Ocala, FL
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I cannot get past two questions rattling around in my cranium...


Was there a real estate agent involved?
OP, did you have a buyers agent?
I would like to know as well. If the seller withheld this nugget of information, hard to blame the buyer's or seller's Realtor who would not have known. I have never heard of a Realtor who also is a licensed an inspector. When I was an active Realtor, I knew what to commonly look for inside a home, but always suggested my clients hire an inspector to crawl under the home, look in the attic, assess the condition of the roof or inspections of electrical, plumbing, waste removal (for example).

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Old 11-04-2020, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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Shouldn't the listing agent have been required to list it as a mobile home and not a single family home?
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Old 11-04-2020, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Ocala, FL
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Shouldn't the listing agent have been required to list it as a mobile home and not a single family home?
The issue could be that they couldn't tell from the outside or the inside. If they knew it was a mobile home they would likely be liable for failure to disclose, but we don't know what the seller told their agent about the home when it was listed. It is possible that the seller did a very convincing job renovating the home that it was not easy to determine. Remember that the taxing authority didn't even know and if so, it was incorrectly recorded by them as well.

This will be interesting to see what happens. IMHO, it is likely that this could go to litigation and the seller could be fined heavily. We can only hope that the OP updates the community from time to time on the status.
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Old 11-04-2020, 01:38 PM
 
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Report the fraud to the police.


The inspector you hired, was it one of your own choice or did the agent recommend someone? I learned from my own mistake not to hire one that a Realtor suggested.


The real estate agent is supposed to investigate the facts before listing. It is a legal obligation.They should come over and take measurements of the interior, exterior and land. The title should show what type of building it is ie bungalow, mobile home, etc.


Just curious if the sell price was quite a bit lower than comparables?

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Old 11-04-2020, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Do you have any pictures? I can understand how newer manufactured homes could get mistaken for built-on-site stick built homes... they're constructed with the same materials and finishes and quality... inside and out. But I've never seen a 1974 that I would mistake for a stick built home.

They must have done very extensive remodeling!
Per the OP...It's Brick. Between that, and a possible roof extension of 18-24 inches it would be indistinguishable from a brick house, and functionally no different either.

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As the title suggests, we have recently closed on a home which was listed, advertised, inspected and appraised as a traditional ranch style, 4 sided brick home. Unfortunately, it has recently been discovered that the home is in fact a mobile home with a brick facade.
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Old 11-04-2020, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Per the OP...It's Brick. Between that, and a possible roof extension of 18-24 inches it would be indistinguishable from a brick house, and functionally no different either.
I first worked in a mobile home plant in 1972-1973.
Then 1976--1998, with a couple of years on other things.
I can tell you, the differences are quite noticeable between a mobile home and a conventional rancher, inside and out and underneath, and brick veneer and a roof job wouldn't begin to camouflage them.
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Old 11-04-2020, 02:06 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Report the fraud to the police.


The inspector you hired, was it one of your own choice or did the agent recommend someone? I learned from my own mistake not to hire one that a Realtor suggested.


The real estate agent is supposed to investigate the facts before listing. It is a legal obligation.They should come over and take measurements of the interior, exterior and land. The title should show what type of building it is ie bungalow, mobile home, etc.


Just curious if the sell price was quite a bit lower than comparables?
It's not necessarily fraud, nor even failure to disclose. We have no idea whether the seller even knew, despite living there, since they may not have ever needed to crawl under it.
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Old 11-04-2020, 02:07 PM
 
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Entirely possible this is not the home, but it's in the OP's zip code and is close on sale date/size/year:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1...9879200_zpid/?

If it is the home, it sold only a year ago and apparently underwent an extensive remodel - it would be almost inconceivable that the sellers in this transaction didn't know it was a mobile.

The ceiling would be a giveaway to me that something is awry.
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Old 11-04-2020, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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It seems that the inspector didn't properly look under the crawlspace and the contractor did.

What did the contractor have to do to see it?


Bend over and look?
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