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Old 11-04-2020, 10:27 AM
 
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Looking for any help as we don't have many to guide us here.

We are in contract on a home and we waived remedies to beat out other offers. We did NOT waive inspection and can get our EMD if we back out.

That said, the inspection report is starting to really worry us. We are first-time buyers and worried we are getting in over our heads but we really love this house and we have specific needs that this one fits.

Here's a summary of the biggest things. We have a structural engineer coming to look at the bolded item today and hoping to get some roof quotes tomorrow:

Inspection Details - Inspection Details: Rodent Evidence

Exterior - Roof Covering - Shingles: A few underdriven fasteners or "Nail Pops".

Exterior - Roof Covering - Shingles: Debris on roof

Exterior - Roof Covering - Shingles: Generally soft sheathing

Exterior - Roof Covering - Shingles: Roof was old and past mid point, replace soon

Exterior - Roof Covering - Shingles: No drip edge installed on roof

Exterior - Chimney: Cracked flue tile

Exterior - Gutters & Downspouts: Standing water in gutters.

Exterior - Walls, Trim and Foundation: Deterioration to homes sheathing

Exterior - Walls, Trim and Foundation: Sots old, severe deterioration, sagging

Exterior - Walls, Trim and Foundation: Peeling paint and bare wood visible.

Exterior - Walls, Trim and Foundation: Stucco maintenance needed, cracking

Exterior - Deck, Porches and Patios: Deck Poorly designed/built, not to modern standards

Interior - Fireplace: Cracked rewall in chimney.

Interior - Fireplace: The replace was dirty.

Interior - Doors: Failed seals, condensation on sliding glass door

Interior - Doors: Sliding glass door was screwed shut.

Interior - Windows: Damaged Hardware on window

Interior - Windows: A window had a failed seal and moisture inside.

Interior - Foundation: Foundation bowing at frost line.

Electrical - Service Drop: No sealant on top of meter

Electrical - Service Equipment: Missing wire bushings should be installed.

Electrical - Service Equipment: Moderate corrosion inside service panel

Electrical - Service Equipment: Multiple neutrals under one lug "Double Tap"

Electrical - Outlets, Switches, Lighting: Junction box cover missing

Electrical - Outlets, Switches, Lighting: Outlets in home were not GFCI protected

Electrical - Visible Branch Wiring: Junction box missing bushing

Water Heater - Water Heater: Water Heater Old, operated

Plumbing - Fixtures: Sink slow to drain

Plumbing - Fixtures: Leaking shower head

Built-In Appliances - Range Hood: Range hood duct terminates in attic

Built-In Appliances - Bathroom Exhaust Fan: Bathroom exhaust vent did not extend to the exterior.

Is this typical or are we in over our heads?
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Old 11-04-2020, 10:36 AM
 
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Worry about the structure and infrastructure of the house. For example don't worry about leaking shower heads but rather the slow drains. Also sounds like the electrical could use an upgrade/moderization so rather than worry about individual outlets and junction boxes perhaps it's time to replace the electrical. In an older home might not be easy. If access to all the electric becomes an issue then do/price things like missing covers and/or gfi outlets. Also he bowing foundation at frostline and apparent old roof(signs of leaks now?)

So infrastructure in this case would include slow drains, outdated electric/wiring ,foundation at frostline and/or old roof(if active issues now). Stuff like individual leaks, breakages, missing hardware etc are not a priority
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Old 11-04-2020, 11:04 AM
 
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If you don't know whether or not you're in over your head, you probably are.


The only things there of any concern to me would be electrical panel matters. But I know enough to know whether something's a problem or not.


Slow drains probably need a plunger.
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Old 11-04-2020, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Florida
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A few things are bad. Personally the foundation bowing is the biggest, followed by electrical, plumbing and roof.

Sounds like the current owners did little to no upkeep, nor fix things before putting it on the market.

Is it priced accordingly? I would expect that home to be listed at 15% lower than homes of similar size, age and style that have been maintained (hard to know).

You'd be looking at a lot of work.
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Old 11-04-2020, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Looking for any help as we don't have many to guide us here.

We are in contract on a home and we waived remedies to beat out other offers. We did NOT waive inspection and can get our EMD if we back out.

That said, the inspection report is starting to really worry us. We are first-time buyers and worried we are getting in over our heads but we really love this house and we have specific needs that this one fits.

Here's a summary of the biggest things. We have a structural engineer coming to look at the bolded item today and hoping to get some roof quotes tomorrow:

...
Is this typical or are we in over our heads?

It looks fairly typical to me.
And, the foundation is #1.
The cracked flue liner is #2.


The roof is SO subjective, and without photos and actually seeing it, the inspection citation is nearly meaningless.
"Past the mid-point?"
A 16 year old, 30 year shingle is "past the mid-point," but likely will serve for many years to come, if the workmanship is good.
Why is there "generally soft sheathing?" Is there a lot of leaking and deteriorated sheathing? Or is it just a 24" on center roof deck that has some bounce to it?



After that, it is just a laundry list of nickel-dime stuff, IMO. Certainly items that need to be addressed.
But, generally a crash course in home ownership.
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Old 11-04-2020, 12:35 PM
 
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It looks fairly typical to me.
And, the foundation is #1.
The cracked flue liner is #2.


The roof is SO subjective, and without photos and actually seeing it, the inspection citation is nearly meaningless.
"Past the mid-point?"
A 16 year old, 30 year shingle is "past the mid-point," but likely will serve for many years to come, if the workmanship is good.
Why is there "generally soft sheathing?" Is there a lot of leaking and deteriorated sheathing? Or is it just a 24" on center roof deck that has some bounce to it?



After that, it is just a laundry list of nickel-dime stuff, IMO. Certainly items that need to be addressed.
But, generally a crash course in home ownership.
Thank you! Our engineer said we could add structural beams for ~3-5K but it wasn't urgent. We have a roofer & masonry expert coming out tomorrow so we will get a better understanding then for those two!
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Old 11-04-2020, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Thank you! Our engineer said we could add structural beams for ~3-5K but it wasn't urgent. We have a roofer & masonry expert coming out tomorrow so we will get a better understanding then for those two!

Many of those items in your list are really very small.
A lot of people, and not just first time buyers, get wound up about the count, rather than the importance of items.

Good Luck!
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Old 11-04-2020, 12:45 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Looking for any help as we don't have many to guide us here.................

Is this typical or are we in over our heads?
I think it's pretty typical. Most of it you actually saw for yourself; you just didn't know what you were looking at.


Inspector did a good job. You know exactly what you are buying and that is his job. Once you get in, make sort of a long term list of things you would like to do. If, for instance, that hot water heater was in a place where a leak (that's how they usually go bad - they leak) would cause real damage then look at replacing it. The manufacturers date is in the serial number - usually the last 2 digits. If it's out in a garage, just put it off.
Have fun! .... That's what owning a house is really about.


I'm fairly well qualified. I'm a licensed home builder, a home inspector and have owned homes since 1975.
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Old 11-04-2020, 01:11 PM
 
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It looks fairly typical to me.
And, the foundation is #1.
The cracked flue liner is #2.


The roof is SO subjective, and without photos and actually seeing it, the inspection citation is nearly meaningless.
"Past the mid-point?"
A 16 year old, 30 year shingle is "past the mid-point," but likely will serve for many years to come, if the workmanship is good.
Why is there "generally soft sheathing?" Is there a lot of leaking and deteriorated sheathing? Or is it just a 24" on center roof deck that has some bounce to it?



After that, it is just a laundry list of nickel-dime stuff, IMO. Certainly items that need to be addressed.
But, generally a crash course in home ownership.
Yes, second this, my thoughts also.
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Old 11-04-2020, 01:31 PM
 
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You can get a handyman to address most all of the list. Take note of the age of the roof, appliances, and hot water tank. The bathroom vent probably comes out in the attic.
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