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Originally Posted by ready2sue
i have talked to an attorney (yesterday) and he seems to think that "in this market, there is no excuse for this behavior other than discrimination.
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I think the largest problem here may be the ignorance of your attorney and maybe your own self.
Where does this assumption come from that every seller out there now, MUST be desparate and are willing to sell to anyone that offers anything if they have their home listed?
It seems a lot of people are under this false assumption, just because some people think it is stupid to list now unless you are desperate and willing to accept any offer that comes along.
The reality is, some people would
"like" to move, but do not
have to move. They list knowing they have the luxury of taking their time and chances to wait for the right offer that will move them out. If it never comes, no big deal to them. They gave it a shot. Those types of sellers are out there, weather you think they are stupid or not. They don't have to sell and can even ignore offers at asking price if they are having second thoughts about selling.
To immediately jump to racial and sexual orientation discrimination because they didn't accept an offer
1/4 below the sellers asking price is a sign to me that you may be over sensitive and slightly paranoid that the world is out to get gay asians.
Because your offer was so much lower then
their asking price, you have zero grounds for any sort of suit. Lawyers will take on any case that comes to them to make a buck. That's what they do. It doesn't mean they will win them.
If your lawyer truly beleives discrimination is going on, get him or her to make the same last offer you did on their home. If he/she is not Asian and they accept his/hers, you have a case and I will eat my shirt, and your attorney can then sell it to you.
Double bonus.
I also have no doubt that you have experienced true discrimination for both being Asian and gay in America. People can really suck in that department and planet earth has a lot of growing up yet to do. I highly doubt it is the case here after hearing their list price and your offer price though.
I agree with whoever said, what is foul/unproffesional here is how the Realtors have been communicating with you.
The seller is the one most at risk for taking things too personally. Their home is a huge part of who they are, their identity and what they may tie their sense of being and self worth too. Your low offer held high potential for being percieved as a great personal offense to them.
Have you considered how they felt recieving it?
At the same time, maybe what you offered is a lot of money to you, and you are tying your own self worth to your offer and are feeling personally rejected "not good enough to be accepted". Some people set themselves up for rejection, to support their own self rejecting beliefs. The sellers may have their own, not worthy enough complex and are setting themselves up to be low balled to support those beleifs.
If you are going to come in 1/4 below someones asking price, expect that you are the one first doing the personal offending out there. Get tougher about handeling the rejection that you are inviting your way
through such offers 1/4 below peoples asking prices.
Just the same that there are assumptions about every seller being a desparate one, lucky to get any offer and they should take it, there are also sweeping assumptions about every buyer being a bottom feeder looking to rape and pillage those in distress. Sellers under that assumption can start off with a bad attitude towards buyers out there and can become overly angst against buyers from the start.
As much as you want to beleive that you are extra special and unique for being a gay Asian, I have news for you. This board is filled to ad nauseum with buyers of every race, age, orientation and sex, crying that some seller rejected their
more then fair offer.
Just the same as they may be foolish for being over priced, as your realtor says they are, so to may you be for bothering with sellers out of touch with reality.
Just the same as they may think you are going to be too difficult to negotiate a fair deal with, why would you want to press forward with sellers who clearly appear to be beyond difficult for you to negotiate a fair deal with?
Why not make offers on homes that your realtor does not think are over priced and spare yourself from any future rejection?
Is it that you wanted THAT one, because it is so much better then what else is out there for you to choose from? If that is the case, then maybe, there is something extra special and exceptional about it that does justify their higher asking price. Did you think about that?
A buyers market just means that there are more homes for sale then people looking to buy them. It does not mean that you will get the house you want for the price you want to pay for it. La la land is open to everyone who wants to enter it's doors.
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