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The question is where?
EFIS is fine here in Colorado - the climate is dry, semi-arid. No problem.
In other parts of the country the EFIS or even real stucco would not be a good thing. I wouldn't any form of stucco in a more humid climate, Kansas, MO, some parts of Texas, etc.
Good point MMichelle - we're in Philadelphia, PA. Not a good spot for a product with moisture problems.
We got a response already. I don't know anything much about real stucco. Can anyone please comment - this is just not an area I have any expertise in.
"After speaking with the architects, I believe that the Sellers Disclosure
may be in error. The external walls are made of stucco that was hand
applied. I have provided the builder's contact information to you and would ask that they provide definitive confirmation of the materials used.
In the interim, I will look at the architects drawings for additional
confirmation.
Assuming that I am correct that the material is stucco, my apologies to you and those interested in the property for this unintended error."
Any thoughts on this? Obviously I would have it double and triple checked by an inspector to make sure it isn't EIFS if the builder confirms that it isn't.
I'm less worried now... am I right to be??
no, the resale will always cause the same issues, you are facing, and even with the best inspector, always a potential problem, as most homeowners, do a bad job of taking care of homes.
no, the resale will always cause the same issues, you are facing, and even with the best inspector, always a potential problem, as most homeowners, do a bad job of taking care of homes.
oldmanbob; are you responding to the original question, or the updated news?
Three coat plaster type stucco is VERY different than EIFS!!!!
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Originally Posted by Hobokenkitchen
More news:
Plans reflect "new 3 coat cement plaster" on ext walls.
Stucco was the exterior material used to the rear portions of the residence.
It does NOT take an expert to rap a knuckle on stucco on say "DAMN this is the GOOD STUFF that lasts generations becuase it is LIKE ROCK" vs tapping on even QUALITY, properly installed EIFS and saying "man I hope this hollow sounding stuff was done right".
Any potential issues down the road would only come from people that are pretty clueless!
If you don't know the difference it takes about 10 seconds of observation:
Exterior Insulated Finish System is BASED on foam over the EXTERIOR and foam sounds HOLLOW, stucco is CEMENT BASED PLASTER that sounds like ROCK.
Easy peasy!
Any agent that screwed this up should have their head handed to 'em on a platter as the odds are great that OTHERS saw that in the listed and CROSSED IT OFF THEIR LIST!
It does NOT take an expert to rap a knuckle on stucco on say "DAMN this is the GOOD STUFF that lasts generations becuase it is LIKE ROCK" vs tapping on even QUALITY, properly installed EIFS and saying "man I hope this hollow sounding stuff was done right".
Any potential issues down the road would only come from people that are pretty clueless!
If you don't know the difference it takes about 10 seconds of observation:
Exterior Insulated Finish System is BASED on foam over the EXTERIOR and foam sounds HOLLOW, stucco is CEMENT BASED PLASTER that sounds like ROCK.
Easy peasy!
Any agent that screwed this up should have their head handed to 'em on a platter as the odds are great that OTHERS saw that in the listed and CROSSED IT OFF THEIR LIST!
It has nothing to do with the agent - the seller had it listed as EIFS in the seller's disclosure.
It's also so unusual for a house in the city to have this stuff, that even I have no experience with it, and I've been selling real estate personally for years, and have owned 7 homes..... not one of which has either stucco or EIFS on it.
I'll give it a good knock next time we're at the house to make sure.
Sounds like you approve of the real stucco which is good!
Regarding the "knock" on EIFS-- the sound is so different that it attracts woodpeckers. They tap it, hear the hollow sound and decide it might be good hunting ground. Commence hole making. Commence moisture intrusion. We looked at a house in the woods last year that had EIFS-- a few telltale holes up out of patching reach told the whole story.
Regarding the "knock" on EIFS-- the sound is so different that it attracts woodpeckers. They tap it, hear the hollow sound and decide it might be good hunting ground. Commence hole making. Commence moisture intrusion. We looked at a house in the woods last year that had EIFS-- a few telltale holes up out of patching reach told the whole story.
Update: I went back to the house today, and gave the 'stucco' a good knock. It is totally solid.
What a mistake to make on your seller's disclosure!!
We have verbal offer & acceptance - waiting signed contracts, and then we're done! No attorney review here. It's kind of scary actually!
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Three coat plaster type stucco is VERY different than EIFS!!!!
