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Okay - what the heck is an offset stick burner? (And please see my question in the general food forum about soupbase.com, Dirt Grinder. )
LOL - it's a BBQ rig with a cooking chamber and an offset fire box fueled by a wood fire. It requires a bit more work than an electric or propane smoker, but the results are well worth the trouble.
So, I never heard of them until we went to a restaurant which offered either St Louis ribs or baby back ribs.
Fast forward, and Publix had St Louis style ribs on sale and I bought some.
I like them because they are meaty and already separated. I opted to cook them in the oven in a closed casserole with a 1/2" of water for one hour at 325 and another hour at 250. Then I transferred them to a sheet pan and slathered them with Sweet Baby Ray's sweet Hot BBQ sauce at 350 until the sauce was caramelized... about a half hour. They were the best ever.
I don't know if I'm just behind the times, but I never saw these ribs before, and love these ribs. If you are the kind of person who loves standing over a grill, I bet they'd be great that way too, instead of the oven.
the st Louis ribs
connect to the baby back ribs
they are usually a little better value (cheaper) and have a little more meat on the bones
they are growing in popularity in these parts too,,,,you go back ten years, we sold the flat belly ribs,,,,about 4-6lbs, ..these had a flange and flank on them, and sold cheap but it was a big purchase, so the industry cleaned them up and took off the waste,,,and pushed them as st Louis,,
some think st Louis ribs and baby backs are the same..
I will not buy St. Louis style ribs because they have the "flap" meat attached and I think it just sucks. I also cannot stand 'baby back' ribs.
I only buy large pork ribs, period. Those to cook at home, Chinese ribs if ordering out.
P.S. Oh, also....I do not want any ribs that, *gag*...."fall off the bone"! ....how cliche and horrid!
I will not buy St. Louis style ribs because they have the "flap" meat attached and I think it just sucks. I also cannot stand 'baby back' ribs.
I only buy large pork ribs, period. Those to cook at home, Chinese ribs if ordering out.
P.S. Oh, also....I do not want any ribs that, *gag*...."fall off the bone"! ....how cliche and horrid!
FYI: The large ribs you describe and Chinese ribs ARE trimmed spare ribs.
In my area, pork ribs with the flap meat are labeled pork spare ribs. If the flap meat is missing then they are labeled St. Louis spare ribs.
St Louis may have the "flap" removed or not. I'd rather have the flaps available, because I cut the flaps off, put them on a metal skewer, and use them to satisfy the onlookers.
St Louis may have the "flap" removed or not. I'd rather have the flaps available, because I cut the flaps off, put them on a metal skewer, and use them to satisfy the onlookers.
Yes, that sounds right. I believe any rack with the tips cut off are considered St. Louis style. I also believe that the flaps and tips are what make up boneless spareribs that are so popular in the Chinese take-out joints. The flaps are good if they are left on slow-smoked St. Louis ribs or removed, marinated and quickly grilled, otherwise I find them tough.
So, I never heard of them until we went to a restaurant which offered either St Louis ribs or baby back ribs.
Fast forward, and Publix had St Louis style ribs on sale and I bought some.
I like them because they are meaty and already separated. I opted to cook them in the oven in a closed casserole with a 1/2" of water for one hour at 325 and another hour at 250. Then I transferred them to a sheet pan and slathered them with Sweet Baby Ray's sweet Hot BBQ sauce at 350 until the sauce was caramelized... about a half hour. They were the best ever.
I don't know if I'm just behind the times, but I never saw these ribs before, and love these ribs. If you are the kind of person who loves standing over a grill, I bet they'd be great that way too, instead of the oven.
here's a couple more pics
one is the baby back rib and the other pick is sometimes called fresh belly ribs, 4down ribs
and cutting off the sternum/cartilage you get the st louis
Excellent pics mainebrokerman. I learned some new info from them. Thank you for posting them.
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