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I love ya robee but a bad tipper is not subjective. .
Like the men like to say, it's not 1950 anymore. 10% is not acceptable (for good service, OF COURSE!). I personally don't even consider 15% acceptable, but I digress
Some of your other points are true, but they are the exception, not the norm.
Sophialee, love ya back ... but it is subjective (see my recent post and the bolded in yours)
Some think 15% is the norm, others say 10%( I agree that's low) and some say over 20-30%. So who's right?
I don't know about tips. I do think there are regional standards.
However, manners are always a clue. In all fairness, you (the OP) may be aware of how a date treats the wait staff. Still, I don't want to be with a man who is rude or treats people poorly.
I guess I do live in the Northeast, where people tend to be educated in general and about how waitstaff earn their living, so I come from that framework. I don't think it suffices however, to be polite but stingy.
Again, what's stingy to you may be generous to someone else. What's generous to you, may be stingy to someone else. It's all relative and not enough of a basis to project about someone's overall character.
I'm curious about how some of the waiter/waitresses feel about tips that are already included on the bill. Do you find that it helps or hurts? If a restuarant factors in a 15% tip on the bill, have you noticed that most patrons will leave it at that, or do enough of them add more to the tip to offset the low percentage added to the bill?
If whoever you`re tipping is doing a fabulous job, then tip more if you want but it shouldn`t be expected for doing the job that is already required of you from your employer. Like I said before, a fair tip is better than none in this economy.Right now, a lot of people are barely getting by. A 25-50% tip is way over the top. Only people who have a good income can do that. The average person is not going to give their money away to tip someone.
GTOlover, it's clear that you have an axe to grind and it has nothing to do with the purpose of this thread. Please stay OT. I won't make the same points on three different threads.
I will all I have to say is you come across as the most self-entitled self-absorbed person I have come across on this forum everyone else her seems to be really nice and gives out honest genuine advice to you yet you brush it off.
anyways that all I have to say to you.
oh and some of the older senior posters here are giving you some really good life advice and it is worth thinking about.
I'm curious about how some of the waiter/waitresses feel about tips that are already included on the bill. Do you find that it helps or hurts? If a restuarant factors in a 15% tip on the bill, have you noticed that most patrons will leave it at that, or do enough of them add more to the tip to offset the low percentage added to the bill?
If people see gratuity is added, they tend not to add more to that percentage. Usually the types of restaurants that slap on an auto grat put it at 18%, however.
I know in a lot of countries like Australia and all over Europe service charges are generally included in the plate price, but usually those people come here and comment to me how outstanding service in the US is compared to their home country in which every server is surly and seems like they don't wish to be there.
I've always been generous with my own money. Believe it or not, I have gone out to eat or drink alone, mainly when I used to live in Manhattan. And I usually treat when I'm with my best friend (who earns less than I do). I expect in others what I expect out of myself.
Did you EVER pay for a boyfriend of yours? Or is it his job to pay for you? Even once in a while, my ex girlfriend who didn't have much money, would pick up the tab, even though I told I wanted to pay, and she would insist once in a while.
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