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Old 09-21-2010, 12:58 PM
 
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Well, I have never seen a happy adult marriage in my life. Out of all the years on this earth, most of the people I know are single/divorced, and from the ones that are married, they're more like roommates or they're just staying together for the sake of the kids.

I will say this, the only people who look to be genuinely in love are high school kids. They hold hands and kiss each other in the public, they're always smiling/looking at each other, and you can just feel the deep affection that they have for each other. They are TRULY in love.

However, I'm quite sure modern burdens such as acquiring money, paying rent, and securing resources for yourself (i.e, retirement money) is the major cause as to why these close bonds are broken.

If we only lived in a civilization (i.e., Minoans, Aztecs) where everyone's basic needs could be met. I think then we would have a much more peaceful society, and adult heterosexual relationships would be much more loving towards each other.


What do you all think?
Perhaps you should move to the other side of town?
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Old 09-21-2010, 01:10 PM
 
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And yet, some of us do manage to do that.

Were my husband and I able to do it because we are somehow more intelligent? More special than the rest of humanity? I think not.

We were able to do it because we understand what real love is and whose example of love to follow (God's).

And as the expression goes, "when the going gets tough, the tough get going"
Atheists understand "real love" too, no deities necessary.

That said, I don't think there's a spouse alive that has never snapped at the other or fought with other during times of severe stress. It's a matter of severity, duration, and whether you can forgive and get past it that matters.

It also requires a certain amount of wisdom to tell the difference between external forces and internal ones, so yes, I think that if you and your husband can do that, you do have something many other people don't. There's a reason the word "idiot" starts with "id."
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Old 09-21-2010, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Wu Dang Mountain
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Sifu, you're going to hell
Sheeee...from what I've seen in life, there won't be much room left for the likes of me. They'll probably just toss me into Oshkosh in a holding pattern.

Now, watch...someone from Oshkosh will get upset that I used their town name in vain...
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Old 09-21-2010, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Wherever women are
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Sheeee...from what I've seen in life, there won't be much room left for the likes of me. They'll probably just toss me into Oshkosh in a holding pattern.

Now, watch...someone from Oshkosh will get upset that I used their town name in vain...
I think you're lucky. As Satan torments Hef, you can meat all his playmates.

I actually meant to say meet

Wonder if there is a secret hell-heaven tunnel me and my antlers can make use of
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Old 09-21-2010, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Tucson
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Sheeee...from what I've seen in life, there won't be much room left for the likes of me. They'll probably just toss me into Oshkosh in a holding pattern.

Now, watch...someone from Oshkosh will get upset that I used their town name in vain...
Oshkosh... Gives me ideas! Too bad I don't have time for outfitting anymore. Eh, I prefer babies with hair anyway.
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Old 09-21-2010, 03:57 PM
 
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Well, I have never seen a happy adult marriage in my life. Out of all the years on this earth, most of the people I know are single/divorced, and from the ones that are married, they're more like roommates or they're just staying together for the sake of the kids.

I will say this, the only people who look to be genuinely in love are high school kids. They hold hands and kiss each other in the public, they're always smiling/looking at each other, and you can just feel the deep affection that they have for each other. They are TRULY in love.

However, I'm quite sure modern burdens such as acquiring money, paying rent, and securing resources for yourself (i.e, retirement money) is the major cause as to why these close bonds are broken.

If we only lived in a civilization (i.e., Minoans, Aztecs) where everyone's basic needs could be met. I think then we would have a much more peaceful society, and adult heterosexual relationships would be much more loving towards each other.


What do you all think?
I think you know so little about the dynamics of other people's relationships. Simply because people aren't mushy like teenagers just means they have learned to behave like adults, not that they don't love another.

And yeah, how much fun would be to live like the Aztecs;

Human Sacrifice (http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/prehistory/latinamerica/topics/human_scacrifice.html - broken link)

Note it was females who were flayed open
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Old 09-21-2010, 04:33 PM
 
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I think you know so little about the dynamics of other people's relationships. Simply because people aren't mushy like teenagers just means they have learned to behave like adults, not that they don't love another.

And yeah, how much fun would be to live like the Aztecs;

Human Sacrifice (http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/prehistory/latinamerica/topics/human_scacrifice.html - broken link)

Note it was females who were flayed open
Yep. Anybody who actually gets nostalgic for past eras of history is deluded. I think I prefer having roads, sanitation, health care, literacy, civil order, and general prosperity. Even in these economic conditions, it's about a zillion times better than any other era in human history.
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Old 09-21-2010, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Southeast, where else?
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Default I dunno....

Well, can't tell you if there is such a thing as a truly happy marriage but, girls if you find yourself dating a married man and your divorced girlfriends get down on you, remember this.....

Not sure if it was chow hound or whomever that was advising you to run like your life depended on it or not but, men in the audience, help me with this one...

Dave Chappelle could do an entire stand up routine on this one like he did for that Monica Lewinski skit. Don't listen to all those gals....they're just jealous....

While you are out swinging from the rafters sharing your wildest oratory moments with Mr. Fill-in-the-blank, these hard-assed, over the hill, can't be a credit-card-eatin'-bimbo anymore in the audience are just mad.....

Same group that fight us at the monthly DDAMM (Drunk Drivers Against Mad Mothers) meetings. They just don't "understand us"...

And while he's getting his knob polished, what are YOU doing, working the emory board? I think not. Scorned women are famous for this. The last time I checked, when they have sex they usually like to have orgasms too. We try to make it a "mutually beneficial situation" but, you just can't please everyone......

Hey, it usually takes two to tango up UNTIL you are married then, it's a somewhat imaginatory episode of; I'm mentally tagging your best friend and you don't even know it!".....strange...AND yet...true?

You probably haven't been this flexible in years....you have muscles of the Kiegel variety you never knew existed....hey, it ain't ALL bad.....wanna have some real fun? Call your divorced angry friends on Monday in that all too Catty way women do and ask them what THEY did over the weekend...we both know they aren't ALL Cougars.....now are they? It's okay, you can fess up now....

As we ALL know it's really the set up to tell them what YOU did all weekend and you can bet it involves something they ALL wish they were doing! Truly, a Southern Belle's tradition.....it's that or Brunch on Sunday and drop the proverbial enuendo(s)? Predictable but, effective...venue is probably key....

Don't listen to them....you have sexual stories they haven't heard since they "experimented" in College...trust me on this one, he's having similar stories about you with his friends. The difference? His friends will dismiss it in 5 minutes...

Yours? They will wear this out like a vibrator on a annivesary in Maui. HANG ON!!!

The more detail you can give em', the better. While it's true, people thrive on other people's misfortunes it's equally true they absolutely run from other people's wins and successes.

Don't believe me? Tell em' you got caught and they will be over with a fresh pot of roast faster than you can say; "Starbucks delivers".....

On the OTHER hand, tell them that you won the lottery and you and your newly divorced man are going away to Hawaii for a month of rest and horizontal relaxation and you won't so much as get a text message from them until next Summer......Aloha!

They are living unhappily vicariously through you!!! Afterall, misery luuuuuuvvvvvv's company, doesn't it?

Just the way it is....

Drop this bomb over brunch and watch that laser trimmed, eyebrow tweezed, botox paralyzed mug of theirs crease ever so slightly.....

So, don those heels baby, cinch that waist up, unbutton that extra button up front, get him the 4 pack of 50mg Viagra and "get busy". That way, you can torture the girls at work you never really cared for, see restaurants you haven't seen in a long long time and find yourself on the weekends relaxed and refreshed....

You go girl...
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Old 10-15-2010, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Between Philadelphia and Allentown, PA
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Well, I have never seen a happy adult marriage in my life. Out of all the years on this earth, most of the people I know are single/divorced, and from the ones that are married, they're more like roommates or they're just staying together for the sake of the kids.

I will say this, the only people who look to be genuinely in love are high school kids. They hold hands and kiss each other in the public, they're always smiling/looking at each other, and you can just feel the deep affection that they have for each other. They are TRULY in love.

However, I'm quite sure modern burdens such as acquiring money, paying rent, and securing resources for yourself (i.e, retirement money) is the major cause as to why these close bonds are broken.

If we only lived in a civilization (i.e., Minoans, Aztecs) where everyone's basic needs could be met. I think then we would have a much more peaceful society, and adult heterosexual relationships would be much more loving towards each other.


What do you all think?
I don't completely agree. I have seen plenty of adult relationships where they hold hands, are very loving towards each other, etc.. including my own.

But, I do agree that certain things play into relationships causing stress which then makes people bitter, etc..
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Old 10-15-2010, 01:50 PM
 
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Yes, I absolutely have seen and know of two happy marriages and one significant happy relationship and they are a constant inspiration that relationships like that weren't just a figment of my imagination or too high of expectations. They may be an endangered species, but they are out there.
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