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How can a person in this case a child be in a "loving relationship with someone" in the first few meetings, never mind first date....?
You can know someone for YEARS and then finally go on a first date with them. Why is this hard for you to conceptualize? I have been saying the same thing for the past several posts, and yet you don't seem to be getting it, so I'm just going to stop here. I can tell you either a) don't read my posts or b) don't understand a single word I am saying.
The sad biological fact is that women take more of a risk from pregnancy than men do. In fact, I don't believe men have any risk of pregnancy, but I could be in error.
Really? Men don't have the risk of conceiving a child? A women may carry a child, but the child is the responsibility of both parties not just one.
And that is besides the point of moral responsibility. That is a matter of practicality. Both males and females have a moral responsibility to respect themselves and others around them. Does the fact that the woman has to carry the child exempt men from being respectful towards others? I'm afraid I'm not following your logic.
Really? Men don't have the risk of conceiving a child? A women may carry a child, but the child is the responsibility of both parties not just one.
And that is besides the point of moral responsibility. That is a matter of practicality. Both males and females have a moral responsibility to respect themselves and others around them. Does the fact that the woman has to carry the child exempt men from being respectful towards others? I'm afraid I'm not following your logic.
Men don't have to "do" anything after donating their seed. And if she doesn't respect herself not to sleep with numerous guys, she has no way of figuring out which one the father might be...
If a guy-man , has a brain , he should take most of the responsibility where behavior is concerned with a girl-woman.
Where, a female would be available for sex on first meetings, the guy should be clever enough to understand that it is a no-brainer dumb move. As well , if the women is this way, she's obviously got some fairly acute emotional problems reaching the self worth department...no doubt.
Disclaimer for ..."AllAboutEve, may I say for express reason in coherence and reasonable management of a topic which is vulnerable to ALL kinds of interpretation , I am referring to first dates and new friends. I have not got a clue why, AllAboutEve is throwing in conditions such as
..."a first date where the couple has known each other for years".... Theres all kinds of conditions that can be thrown into the pot. How could anything ever get resolved ?
Its the mans fault in my opinion, and I am male, that promiscuity is alive and well (as it is)
Woman are women, they are of a luring quality by nature. Feminism has NO chance of qualifying chemical influence in behavior tendency at this point in history. We simply have
1000's of years of gene-survival influence that comprises the contemporary female. Not to mention social expectations for the girl to lure through attractiveness.
Can't men be decent ? Must they interpret sex with allure ? Obviously contemporary men are getting away with demoralizing the female. Females desperate for self understanding in acceptance..? No doubt. If the relationship goes well after first meetings sex ...unfortuanatly its a very very rare thing .. .
A woman is a sexual object...? It would be nothing more than that overview in the event of sex with a girl who is a new friend, whether its ok with her or not makes no difference. This behavior insults both regardless of consent as it betrays the individuality in both . The man should know better, otherwise my opinion is that he is a pig. If the new girl "friend" consents , she has problems and that should be detected by the male. If not its taking advantage. Taking advantage of a girl-womans need for acceptance as a female . Plain and simple
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It's just not how you start off with quality interaction. Respect, the chase, earning, connection and other things are all off on the first date. You don't even know who that person really is to be honest even though you may feel like you do in your alcoholic state. Even STD free, it's not a good idea if you are interested in a quality relationship foundation. Now if you are looking for casual sex or one night affection, then that's something else.
Men don't have to "do" anything after donating their seed. And if she doesn't respect herself not to sleep with numerous guys, she has no way of figuring out which one the father might be...
LOL the courts actually have something different to say about that tk.
LOL the courts actually have something different to say about that tk.
Duh...? The Courts ? All the courts can do is apply an order to pay money. So what ?
The man still doesn't have to do anything other than "paperwork"
give me a break ! Are u disgruntled ? ha ha ha
The indifferent male simply pays or does not pay. He does not care. He does not have to do anything. If he is short of money or has money problems , he continues to do nothing other than address financial matters which he would be doing anyway.
The statement remains intact. Men don't have to do anything , relative of course to the
reality of on the spot, round the clock presence, in usual needs" of a brand new baby and upbringing....give me a break on this one
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Men don't have to "do" anything after donating their seed. And if she doesn't respect herself not to sleep with numerous guys, she has no way of figuring out which one the father might be...
No, way of figuring out? That's why there's praternity tests. And that is bedsides the point that I was trying to make. When I referred to a 'moral dilemma', I was not referring to pregnancy I was referring to respecting others. Everyone (men and women) is faced with this decision. I clearly clarified that point but you have still managed to avoid addressing it.
It doesn't matter if you are a male, female or hermaphrodite - you are faced with the choice of whether or not to respect others. Nothing can rationalize this away. You can spout your BS about "spreading seeds" all you want, but that still does not justify using or disrespecting another person.
If I followed your logic, I could justify any number of immoral acts. I could justify stealing, rape, genocide, war, infanticide - all on the basis of human survival mechanisms and survival of the fittest. But we all know that the human experience is much more complex than that. Morality is based on the fundementals of humanity - and that is that we are all human. Maybe if you step outside your little box and realize that, we could finally stop arguing the worthlessness of your postion on "seed spreading".
i think you are assuming a lot, because as long as my kids are protecting themselves i would not care if they did.
Obviously many people are brought up this way. Its not hard to detect promiscuous individuals. Ever heard of Tiger Woods ?
If U are into
carefree sex before commitment , thats who U are.
Air heads are every where, no depth . I don't bother with these types.
They have nothing to offer in mutual regard for the complete, human being.
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