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Old 12-26-2010, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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It's all a matter of choice. I personally don't want to live this way and I also wouldn't want a relationship with somebody living this way, but that's simply my own preference.
... and we don't want to live in Tucson.
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Old 12-26-2010, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Tucson
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... and we don't want to live in Tucson.
I understand that. I'm not in love with Tucson myself, but I don't want to live like a bum in a city I can't afford.
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Old 12-26-2010, 11:22 AM
 
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I understand that. I'm not in love with Tucson myself, but I don't want to live like a bum in a city I can't afford.
Yeah but my point is, I'm not living like a bum by any stretch.
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Old 12-26-2010, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Tucson
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Yeah but my point is, I'm not living like a bum by any stretch.
I'm not saying you are, but many do. Once I watched a documentary about SF. Still remember a woman who was actually working, making $12/hour, and being homeless! WTH she "lives" in SF and how she enjoys it is beyond me.
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Old 12-26-2010, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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I'm not saying you are, but many do. Once I watched a documentary about SF. Still remember a woman who was actually working, making $12/hour, and being homeless! WTH she "lives" in SF and how she enjoys it is beyond me.
Yeah, that sucks. But it's not the norm for here. Situations like hers get paraded around as though it's common in San Francisco, and it really isn't; most people who make $12/hour have the sense to figure out a living situation ($12/hr x 40hr/week = $480/week pretax, she could certainly find a place with a couple female roommates for $500/mo in a reasonably nice part of the city). If you're making $12/hr in Tucson I imagine it'd go further, but people like her are either dumb; ill-prepared for life in the real world; or have something else that's making it impossible to get along. For $12 an hour in a big city, you can't be financing a new car, have an iPhone with the super-mega-everything plan, and go out to eat at a nice restaurant every night, but you can get by if you have some sense about you.

Most people here get by just fine, or they'd be moving away.
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Old 12-26-2010, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Tucson
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Most people here get by just fine, or they'd be moving away.
What I don't get the most is the real homeless there (and in other places with even worse climate). Not that I want them here, but if I were them I'd find a way to drag my as@ to a warmer place even if the city doesn't buy me a one-way ticket to get rid of me.
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Old 12-26-2010, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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What I don't get the most is the real homeless there (and in other places with even worse climate). Not that I want them here, but if I were them I'd find a way to drag my as@ to a warmer place even if the city doesn't buy me a one-way ticket to get rid of me.
Not to drag the whole topic off or anything, but... this is another issue... people go and blame all of the liberal policies for ruining San Francisco with homeles... actually, no, if you go to a normal neighborhood in SF, you won't see any more hobos than any other major city. They congregate around Union Square and the Wharf because they can beg and get tourists from other places who aren't used to seeing the same guy on the same block telling the same sob story every day for the whole year. They feel bad for him; we know he's a crackhead. They stay here and deal with the cold winters because they can bilk many, many times more than if they were in a city with fewer tourists.
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Old 12-26-2010, 12:46 PM
 
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Yeah, that sucks. But it's not the norm for here. Situations like hers get paraded around as though it's common in San Francisco, and it really isn't; most people who make $12/hour have the sense to figure out a living situation ($12/hr x 40hr/week = $480/week pretax, she could certainly find a place with a couple female roommates for $500/mo in a reasonably nice part of the city). If you're making $12/hr in Tucson I imagine it'd go further, but people like her are either dumb; ill-prepared for life in the real world; or have something else that's making it impossible to get along. For $12 an hour in a big city, you can't be financing a new car, have an iPhone with the super-mega-everything plan, and go out to eat at a nice restaurant every night, but you can get by if you have some sense about you.

Most people here get by just fine, or they'd be moving away.
I have lived in the Bay area, and a single adult can't make it on less than $18 bucks an hr, if you want your own place. And you'd have to settle for a dump, in a sketchy neighborhood!
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Old 12-26-2010, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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I have lived in the Bay area, and a single adult can't make it on less than $18 bucks an hr, if you want your own place. And you'd have to settle for a dump, in a sketchy neighborhood!
I live in the Inner Richmond, there was a studio across the hall from me for $850/mo, which isn't bad at all.
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Old 12-26-2010, 01:22 PM
 
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I live in the Inner Richmond, there was a studio across the hall from me for $850/mo, which isn't bad at all.
I think that's over-priced, for a studio. It wouldn't be bad,for a one bedroom place though. To get back on topic, the major cities have become unaffordable for single folks making less than $50K a year, due to high housing costs. Which is why I think that the Boston Marriage, may make a big come back in the future.
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