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Originally Posted by LuckyGem
Human sexuality is behavioral.
Can people change their behavior?
Yes.
There's your answer.
Yes, but behaviour is driven by basic drives/impulses.
The question, werer these women who identify as lesbian and engage in lesbian behaviour born with these impulses? Or did culture give them this impulses, like the impulse for a fast car or a big house?
I was thinking while I'm not usually turned on by the male form alone, if it's PRESENTED in an erotic context, or even um, say homoeroticism , I get turned on by it for that reason. I'm thinking maybe the same thing happens with women. When women are constantly PRESENTED as being sexy.etc they ASSOCIATE women with sex, eroticism more. Am I right?
I think I see your point--since sex sells and women are used more often than men to sell consumer goods, then we all, male and female, are turned on by the female body? Could be. But though I find women beautiful, I just have no desire to have sex with one.
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Originally Posted by LuckyGem
Human sexuality is behavioral.
Can people change their behavior?
Yes.
There's your answer.
Not so fast there lucky. People can change their behavior temporarily but if they're wired to be gay, I don't think it can last for a lifetime. My ex is a case in point--I truly believe he wanted to be straight and he was mortified by the whole coming out process--I believe he would have chosen to eat worms rather than go thru that. But he could only do it for so long, so while much of human sexuality may be behavioral, not all of it is. It's sort of like the whole nature vs. nurture controversy--how much of each goes into the making of a person?
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Originally Posted by stepka
I think I see your point--since sex sells and women are used more often than men to sell consumer goods, then we all, male and female, are turned on by the female body? Could be. But though I find women beautiful, I just have no desire to have sex with one.
Not so fast there lucky. People can change their behavior temporarily but if they're wired to be gay, I don't think it can last for a lifetime. My ex is a case in point--I truly believe he wanted to be straight and he was mortified by the whole coming out process--I believe he would have chosen to eat worms rather than go thru that. But he could only do it for so long, so while much of human sexuality may be behavioral, not all of it is. It's sort of like the whole nature vs. nurture controversy--how much of each goes into the making of a person?
Yes exactly...if you think about it, women have been socially eroticized far more than men in the last say, 70-80 years, and your sub-conscious is trained to be attracted to them. This comes from clothing, how they are portrayed in the media, how men and women value themselves. Even among women it's always about complimenting each other on looks, which leads to an inordinate preoccupation with female beauty/fashion. Women dominate magazines for both men and women, I think modern Western culture is responsible for this.
I think it's hard to give any one reason behind lesbian relationships. Everyone's story is different. There are many factors that go into sexuality--biological, social, cultural, etc. I don't think it really helps anyone to theorize why someone may form the type of relationship they do, especially if that theory is used to legitimize or trivialize their relationship. Just let people love how they love and let them figure themselves out!
Well, yes it is, and I'm not a submissive anyway, though I love the female role. How do you separate one from the other?
No, it's really not. You're aroused by domination, not the male body. See below.
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Originally Posted by ChessieMom
WTF? What planet do you live on?? I most DEFINITELY love male bodies. LOVE LOVE LOVE them. And I am not sexually attracted to women...I assure you. No lesbian or assexual here, at all.
The attraction you feel to anything is conditional based upon its ability to give you pleasure. Like I said, not all women experience physical attraction, so I don't expect you to understand the difference. It's the same reason girls don't understand why men love lesbian porn.
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Originally Posted by Black Jack22
I love these kinds of topics.
Women in western society are constantly bombarded by lesbianism everywhere they go. In the 60s, 70s and 80s, there were significantly more straight women than they are today.
As far as the bicurious/bisexual female phenomenon, women have just developed more masculine psychological traits.
If by "masculine" you mean "slutty," then yes. Although, I think it's more so their natural inclinations are coming through, rather than them "developing" that way. Women aren't out raping each other in the streets, after all.
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Originally Posted by Black Jack22
ANY women who claims to be anything than COMPLETELY STRAIGHT is at least bisexual. If a woman is not turned on by the male body, she is NOT straight.
This can be written off as ignorance of female sexuality, but there are quite a few men with this attitude who are basically "in the closet."
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Originally Posted by Man_of_Reason
No, it's really not. You're aroused by domination, not the male body. See below.
The attraction you feel to anything is conditional based upon its ability to give you pleasure. Like I said, not all women experience physical attraction, so I don't expect you to understand the difference. It's the same reason girls don't understand why men love lesbian porn.
If by "masculine" you mean "slutty," then yes. Although, I think it's more so their natural inclinations are coming through, rather than them "developing" that way. Women aren't out raping each other in the streets, after all.
This can be written off as ignorance of female sexuality, but there are quite a few men with this attitude who are basically "in the closet."
How can you be so sure of what you're saying, as a man?
Ultimately aren't we all driven to have sex for pleasure?
Also, your comment before...why would 'straight' women be attracted to other women but not men? Is it because they can't 'relate' to being male, hence another female is their only frame of reference for pleasure?
No, it's really not. You're aroused by domination, not the male body. See below.
LOL at a man telling me what I'm aroused by. I can be aroused by the sight of bonobo apes having hot monkey sex, but not by the sight of a male body. Sure buddy.
The sexual revolution was one of the MAIN catalysts for the rising trend of female bisexuality.
It's going to get far worse. In the near future, you will see MORE and more women cheating on their bf or husbands with other women.
Western society is mainly responsible for this.
It is mainly increased viewing of accepted lesbianism in the media by women.
For the Males:
If you already know this then good if not then listen.
Many women....the ones you know, ones you have dated, married or even been friends with are "secretly" bisexual meaning that they fantasize about it regularly but are too afraid to act on it.
Many of these women will vehemently deny they are bisexual but really are.
Just go to clubs at least in America and you will see the strongest evidence of bisexuality among women.
You can be bisexual without even acting on it.
For the Women:
For all many of you say about men, at least most of us are still straight.
Last edited by Black Jack22; 01-12-2011 at 08:21 PM..
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Jack22
The sexual revolution was one of the MAIN catalysts for the rising trend of female bisexuality.
It's going to get far worse. In the near future, you will see MORE and more women cheating on their bf or husbands with other women.
Western society is mainly responsible for this.
It is mainly increased viewing of accepted lesbianism in the media by women.
For the Males:
If you already know this then good if not then listen.
Many women....the ones you know, ones you have dated, married or even been friends with are "secretly" bisexual meaning that they fantasize about it regularly but are too afraid to act on it.
Many of these women will vehemently deny they are bisexual but really are.
Just go to clubs at least in America and you will see the strongest evidence of bisexuality among women.
You can be bisexual without even acting on it.
For the Women:
For all many of you say about men, at least most of us are still straight.
Is this from personal experience or polls done by Askmen.com or something?
What evidence are you talking about? Girls kissing girls, suggestive dancing with each other?
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, I get turned on by it for that reason. I'm thinking maybe the same thing happens with women. When women are constantly PRESENTED as being sexy.etc they ASSOCIATE women with sex, eroticism more. Am I right?
And I am not sexually attracted to women...I assure you. No lesbian or assexual here, at all. 
