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Old 01-10-2011, 02:12 PM
 
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If I was born a pretty woman I'd like a handsome enough guy with a good career or business. Now how hard is that to find? Sometimes I cruise Craigslist's "men searching for women" ads just to see my competition... and to view how good the selection of men is out there... Lotsa ugly creeps on Craigslist!

But if you're a beautiful woman isn't finding a good man easy? Wouldn't you just select the best men that went after you?

But it seems there is a problem with rich, successful, and handsome men - they are not faithful, they cheat, and when you get old they'll dump you for a younger woman! Aren't hot guys difficult?

And if you're ugly, I guess it would be very hard to find a good man unless you lower your standards? How hard is it finding a good man if you're ugly?

If you're married now - how hard was it finding and getting your man? What were you looking for in a man?

But to me dating in general is way easier for women. Women get into clubs for free, are treated out, and it's usually men who come onto them, so not much rejection for women. And men need money or a job to be good enough whereas women only need their looks and a good personality.
1. Not every woman has the same definition of a good man as you.

2. If you think the "good men" are going to bother looking for a woman on Craigslist, then you're just clueless as to what a good man is.

3. If you're a beautiful woman, you won't have trouble attracting men. But there's no guarantee any of those men will be "good" men.

4. A woman can have looks, but she might not have a good personality to go with it. In fact, a lot of women are so used to getting by on their looks that they don't bother developing other good qualities. And even if they do, then the issue if finding someone you're compatible with. Funny how that word never shows up in your post. I guess it's not really an important consideration for you, is it?
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Old 01-10-2011, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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You can't just put a good woman and good man together and expect sparks to fly. Yeah, they may get along but the possibility of both of them developing a mutual attraction depends on many factors. People have different values, temperaments, styles, and quirks. Yeah, this guy may seem cool to hang out with occasionally but I may not want to be intimate with him or plan my future with him.
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Old 01-10-2011, 03:59 PM
 
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If I was born a pretty woman I'd like a handsome enough guy with a good career or business. Now how hard is that to find? Sometimes I cruise Craigslist's "men searching for women" ads just to see my competition... and to view how good the selection of men is out there... Lotsa ugly creeps on Craigslist!

Dude, craigslist is like shopping for clothes at walmart. You get what you pay for.

But if you're a beautiful woman isn't finding a good man easy? Wouldn't you just select the best men that went after you?

You think guys only like gorgeous women? for just sex, maybe. For something more? No, we get annoyed by beautiful women that are stupid, insecure, drama queens.

But it seems there is a problem with rich, successful, and handsome men - they are not faithful, they cheat, and when you get old they'll dump you for a younger woman! Aren't hot guys difficult?

The only problem is they know that they can get away with it. Maybe you could tone your standards to just "attractive" men, or "cute guys" or "fairly decent looking guys". I've also found that when you really get to know someone and like them for who they are, they become a lot more attractive.

And if you're ugly, I guess it would be very hard to find a good man unless you lower your standards? How hard is it finding a good man if you're ugly?

I know some women who are not very good looking but have a great guy. Probably because they have a lot to offer other than looks (which will all deteriorate over time anyway pending plastic surgery operations).

If you're married now - how hard was it finding and getting your man? What were you looking for in a man?

But to me dating in general is way easier for women. Women get into clubs for free, are treated out, and it's usually men who come onto them, so not much rejection for women. And men need money or a job to be good enough whereas women only need their looks and a good personality.

Dating IS easier for women, men are expected to put themselves out there a little more, yet women don't always feel comfortable pursuing men.

Men don't need money or a job to be good enough. I met my girlfriend while unemployed with NO MONEY. We just went out on inexpensive dates and enjoyed each other's company.

Women need a lot more than just looks and personality to land a good dude.

Take a look in the mirror and ask yourself what you really want and what you can bring to a relationship.
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Old 01-10-2011, 05:55 PM
 
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It may be hard for some women to find a good man because THAT good man is also looking for a good woman. Same thing for men.
And that sums it up nicely.
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Old 01-10-2011, 06:16 PM
 
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And that sums it up nicely.
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Old 01-10-2011, 06:35 PM
 
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If I was born a pretty woman I'd like a handsome enough guy with a good career or business. Now how hard is that to find? Sometimes I cruise Craigslist's "men searching for women" ads just to see my competition... and to view how good the selection of men is out there... Lotsa ugly creeps on Craigslist!

But if you're a beautiful woman isn't finding a good man easy? Wouldn't you just select the best men that went after you?
I think if you are a pretty woman you should have no trouble finding a handsome man. But you are asking for one that has a good career and business. If that was the case you'd probably need to have a great education or your own career/business in order for that to work out. Or, you need some other type of skill that is going to hold his interest. It is very easy to find an excellent man if you are an excellent woman. However I fear that your standards might be a bit high if you think that a woman's beauty alone is enough.
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Old 01-10-2011, 06:42 PM
 
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Jesse69 is not a woman.
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Old 01-10-2011, 06:55 PM
 
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Jesse69 is not a woman.
Definitely not!! Wishes he was, though.
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Old 01-10-2011, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Anyone cruising Craigslist for their "competition" has no conception of what a relationship is like or how to develop or nurture one. Anyone who thinks that all handsome, successful men cheat or dump their wives for younger women is similarly clueless.

A successful man does not have to be rich and handsome and such a characterization is vapid in the extreme. A successful man is a man who is loved and who loves and has a happy relationship and who is happy and satisfied with himself.

What makes a happy marriage? Two people who love one another and are each other's best friends. Two people who would rather be together than with anyone else on earth. I have no idea why so many people here seem to have no understanding of this. It's not rocket science.
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Old 01-10-2011, 10:58 PM
 
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When I was in my 20s. I knew a lot of what I would consider to be "good single men". However, I rarely encountered such a man, who women were strongly attracted to.

Perhaps I was able to see them up close in a way that most women never do or don't even try to do.

This is probably the biggest problem women have today. Compared to the past, they have an enormous potential selection and yet, really don't get to know much about any of these men. Consequently, superficial attributes are the only thing considered.

Also, unlike the past, most women now have about 80 to 90% of the decision to make about a relationship, unless they are super picky. However, they get almost no input from those who are truly in the know.

For the minority of women who don't have this decision making power, they rarely have much choice but to select from what most consider to be society's dregs. Not always true, but they will usually be unhappy, no matter what happens.
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