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Old 02-06-2011, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Northside Of Jacksonville
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Exactly!!! I meet so many women who have a laundry list of what they expect in a guy but are shocked and lost for words when I ask them what they have offer. Blank look is all I get. One girl said "Why should I offer anything? I'm a woman!" Another said she expects respect. I told her you command respect, you don't demand respect (meaning respect has to be earned). Off she went into the sunset complaining to her friends.
Get it bro! That's how you put princessy, entitled women in their place, flip the script on them. She did you a favor because chances are, if you two would've gotten together, it would've been hell.

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Especially when our list is or should be fairly easy to meet. I think in general we aren't as picky. Is it asking too much for an equal in looks and a loving, loyal, trustworthy, responsible mate? Most of us don't get hung up on the small stuff and blow it out of proportion the same way. The older we get, personality means more and more all the time. I'd take someone who is cute with a personality and steady job over a hot one with a six figure job and a attitude straight outta hell
Is it asking too much to have the same you require of a prospective mate? This is the "princessy, entitled" mentality most women have; They expect for men to have this, that and the third when they forget to ask themselves, or a man reverses the question of what they have to offer back on them. As stated by TimelessClassic, when men flip the script, they ride off into the sunset complaining to their sorry friends about how he's such a jerk. No, most sensible men aren't going to cater to any woman because she says "I'm a woman so you should do this, that and the third for me"
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Old 02-06-2011, 02:28 PM
 
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That just seems to be happening lately. Either I'm just meeting the wrong types of people or I need to "manage" the drama better. Maybe a little of both :-)
I think it also depends on where you're hanging out and what you're doing with your time.
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Old 02-06-2011, 02:38 PM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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What about the Vulcan mind meld?
I find that rarely works with cantaloupes.
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Old 02-06-2011, 02:39 PM
 
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Get it bro! That's how you put princessy, entitled women in their place, flip the script on them. She did you a favor because chances are, if you two would've gotten together, it would've been hell.



Is it asking too much to have the same you require of a prospective mate? This is the "princessy, entitled" mentality most women have; They expect for men to have this, that and the third when they forget to ask themselves, or a man reverses the question of what they have to offer back on them. As stated by TimelessClassic, when men flip the script, they ride off into the sunset complaining to their sorry friends about how he's such a jerk. No, most sensible men aren't going to cater to any woman because she says "I'm a woman so you should do this, that and the third for me"
Call me a jerk girls. I do this. I flip the script like they do. I want to know what I'm getting.
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Old 02-06-2011, 02:47 PM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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Is it asking too much to have the same you require of a prospective mate? This is the "princessy, entitled" mentality most women have; They expect for men to have this, that and the third when they forget to ask themselves, or a man reverses the question of what they have to offer back on them. As stated by TimelessClassic, when men flip the script, they ride off into the sunset complaining to their sorry friends about how he's such a jerk. No, most sensible men aren't going to cater to any woman because she says "I'm a woman so you should do this, that and the third for me"
I really don’t understand what's so demanding about wanting someone who is loyal, honest, loving and responsible. And in case you ask, yes, I am those things. To me, those traits are baseline. Yes, some people are below baseline, but simple characteristics such as those are the minimum criteria to be a reasonable mate. Not loyal? Not honest? Take a hike.
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Old 02-06-2011, 02:49 PM
 
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Men how do you tell a good women from a bad one?.
If you are part of the rare breed that met an honest, caring, loyal women and you guys have been together for a while how did you score such a gem?
Single guys out there with experience under their belt; what do you look for to tell if a women is with the light or serving the dark side?
What are some tricks, hints, tactics, or plays you use?

Really want to hear from the O.G's on this topic.

I really want this thread to grow with some good Intel so we can help out the other guys on this forum who have trouble like me as well.

Some things my friend looks for is a women's upbringing and how she was raised.
His current girlfriend never cheated on him and he says its just do to her upbringing. She has been with him for 3 years now and she hasn't lied to him once.
Thats astonishing.

He says a women raised with love, a family, has a father figure and brought up strict it plays a big part in if she will turn evil or not.

So what are your views fellas?
News Flash**** I am not a 'fella' but I thought I'd give a shot at answering this.

First off, to label good or bad is unfair. Just because you aren't a match to someone who (as a previous poster's taste indicates) has more than $40 dollars worth of jewlery doesn't mean there isn't a partner out there she is perfect for. This doesn't make this person *bad*, it just makes them a *bad* match for you.

I think the key to finding someone you mesh with is finding someone who you don't feel you need to explain or apoliogize for or worse, you have to change yourself to please. If a person cannot accept you for who you are, then they aren't right for you.

I would describe myself as honest, caring and loyal... but I am also strong, independant and outspoken... even fierce in my beliefs. I grew up without a father. I have tattoos. I also have held the same job for over a decade, pay my bills on time and can play nice with my husband's ex. I do not ask my husband for anything I am not willing to do.... except maybe kill a spider.

Before you can find a good (for you) woman, you need to be comfortable in the man you are. Once you know who you are, you will be able to find a mate who compliments you... just as you do her.
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Old 02-06-2011, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Northside Of Jacksonville
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I really don’t understand what's so demanding about wanting someone who is loyal, honest, loving and responsible. And in case you ask, yes, I am those things. To me, those traits are baseline. Yes, some people are below baseline, but simple characteristics such as those are the minimum criteria to be a reasonable mate. Not loyal? Not honest? Take a hike.
It's not demanding if you have what you're requiring, but if you have NONE of what you listed, you have no right to demand this, that and the third. In your case, you have a right to require a man be loyal, honest and trustworthy because you are those things.
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Old 02-06-2011, 02:56 PM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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It's not demanding if you have what you're requiring, but if you have NONE of what you listed, you have no right to demand this, that and the third. In your case, you have a right to require a man be loyal, honest and trustworthy because you are those things.
A woman who is treacherous, dishonest, irresponsible and unloving is a fruitcake, and wise men would run away from her.
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Old 02-06-2011, 02:57 PM
 
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News Flash**** I am not a 'fella' but I thought I'd give a shot at answering this.

First off, to label good or bad is unfair. Just because you aren't a match to someone who (as a previous poster's taste indicates) has more than $40 dollars worth of jewlery doesn't mean there isn't a partner out there she is perfect for. This doesn't make this person *bad*, it just makes them a *bad* match for you.

I think the key to finding someone you mesh with is finding someone who you don't feel you need to explain or apoliogize for or worse, you have to change yourself to please. If a person cannot accept you for who you are, then they aren't right for you.


I would describe myself as honest, caring and loyal... but I am also strong, independant and outspoken... even fierce in my beliefs. I grew up without a father. I have tattoos. I also have held the same job for over a decade, pay my bills on time and can play nice with my husband's ex. I do not ask my husband for anything I am not willing to do.... except maybe kill a spider.

Before you can find a good (for you) woman, you need to be comfortable in the man you are. Once you know who you are, you will be able to find a mate who compliments you... just as you do her.
We already know. I let it rip and see where it takes me. If she doesn't like me or who I am then it was a blessing. I think if more guys put themselves out there in a "actual mode" less women would be mistaken and fooled thus reducing nasty breakups and divorce. You get what you get with me. That's all I was ever good at and who I am.
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Old 02-06-2011, 04:06 PM
 
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Story of my life too. I also started out that way and then learned.


I had a similar situation with a friend. No job, no career, no education, no goals, no ambition, but partying and chasing women all day. But this guy did get girls. - lots of them :-). I dropped him from my social circle because I didn't want the partying 5 days a week lifestyle and didn't care for the drama every time I hung out with him and his social circle.

We should be fortunate we learned it some guys refuse to accept it.
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