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Old 02-13-2011, 12:41 PM
 
Location: syracuse ny
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There's a woman in my circles. She is very pretty.36ish...slender..chatty..very nice to guys. She's in commercials on TV constantly. I know one guy who committed suicide dating her, another who tried. I've seen handsome well adjusted guys turned into quivering, blubbering masses. As far as I can tell she's really nice to them for a while until they're hooked, then the head starts spinning around, the green puke..you're calling the Vatacan, on hold with the excorcism deptartment.

Older guys and Women try to warn prospects. THEY NEVER, EVER LISTEN! Many say they are aware of her reputation, however...THEY can handle it. They try to say THEY can just keep it on sex and walk away from her at a moments notice. And she just keeps going on.. collecting souls.
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Old 02-13-2011, 02:12 PM
 
Location: The ATL
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What do you think?
Call her, tease her some then invite her to a fun hobby YOU enjoy (miniature golfing, wine tasting, etc). Show her YOUR world. Women find that very sexy! You would be "elevated" to her "league", if you want to think in those terms!

Don't ASK her out in the sense that "would you please consider going out with me blah blah"? Say something like "Hey, I'm going to xxx place. It's a lot of fun. Want to go check it out?"
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Old 02-13-2011, 03:18 PM
 
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There's a woman in my circles. She is very pretty.36ish...slender..chatty..very nice to guys. She's in commercials on TV constantly. I know one guy who committed suicide dating her, another who tried. I've seen handsome well adjusted guys turned into quivering, blubbering masses. As far as I can tell she's really nice to them for a while until they're hooked, then the head starts spinning around, the green puke..you're calling the Vatacan, on hold with the excorcism deptartment.

Older guys and Women try to warn prospects. THEY NEVER, EVER LISTEN! Many say they are aware of her reputation, however...THEY can handle it. They try to say THEY can just keep it on sex and walk away from her at a moments notice. And she just keeps going on.. collecting souls.
Sounds like a horrible woman. There are men like that too. Most people never learn. You have to let them do the learning on their own.
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Old 02-13-2011, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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OMG... why would she say yes to a date if she wasn't attracted to you... that is the problem... I've always have guys say..."oh I didn't ask you out because I thought you would say no"... then I sit at home reading a book instead of someone just having the b _ _ _ s to ask me out... Call her and tell her what a great time you had and you would like to see her again... simple.. If she isn't interested, she will say no... none of us like to be rejected but you never know until you ask... Right??
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Old 02-13-2011, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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Just got back from a first date with a girl waaay out my league. She was beautiful, talented, accomplished (she's a professional flutist who has traveled the world), wise, kind, funny, graceful, fun to talk to, and did I mention extraordinarily cute?

She's used to handsome guys who've been all over the world, who are vegans or vegetarians, and who have masters or doctorates in science or music.

We went to the museum's "adult night" -- the theme this time was "the science of love." It was fun. I did a reasonable job of being myself. But when I get in the car, alone, THAT's when the real me, the confident, flamboyant, creative, funny me comes right out. I find my voice is too high and I'm too "nice" and not creative/funny enough in these first date situations. But it wouldn't have mattered with this girl anyway, she's just way out of my league. Needless to say, there won't be a second date.

My question is, is going on these dates with a "9" when you're a "5" on your best day good or bad?
1. You never know what could happen (but usually you do, and it's "nothing")
2. No experience is wasted no matter what it is
3. These experiences can be beneficial to self-confidence and should be embraced
4. These experiences can be detrimental to self-confidence and should be avoided

What do you think?
Did she tell you that she was married.......to Drummer Boy???
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Old 02-13-2011, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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Thanks everyone.
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How'd you score the date in the first place if she's so clearly somebody who'd never be amenable to dating somebody like you?
It was through OKCupid. We only passed a couple of emails before I invited her out to the museum. I would guess I wouldn't have scored the date had she known me ahead of time. I guess I'm glad she agreed to go, because I had a good time and it was fun.
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Sounds like you had every chance to put your best foot forward. If you screw something up due to lack of confidence, then it's really on you...not the girl
Well, I was a bit nervous -- not 100% myself, as I mentioned, but I was more or less satisfied with myself.
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How do you know there's no chance for a second date? Call her up and thank her for her company, then ask to see her again.
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Anyways, why are you so sure that there won't be a second date. Did she say or imply that, or are you assuming that's the case?
Besides the obvious differences in our levels of accomplishment and genetics, I would say there were clues. The disappointment when I told her what my major was and what I do for a living, when I admitted that I do eat meat sometimes, when I mentioned how little international traveling I've done. Leaving early instead of hanging around or going to get food afterward. The decidedly past-tense way she said "it was nice to have met you."

I will be classy and courteous and thank her for accompanying me. I genuinely had a good time myself.
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You may find a nice one who won't be rude in her let down but she is defiantly not interested.
I think this is the case. She's definitely a very nice person who wouldn't be rude.
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What makes you think you are a 5? You shouldn't rate yourself.
I don't go around thinking I'm a number, it's just a convenient proxy for comparing different education levels, aspirations, intellectual levels, genetics etc. The things that made her a "9" weren't limited to her appearance by any means (even though I thought she looked like a delicate and stunning elf).
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Not necessarily. You can say someone is out of your league and be correct. If the gap is so great when it comes to background, intelligence and social status that it makes life too awkward, than the other person is out of your league.
Yes.

Anyway, thanks for the varying opinions.

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Old 02-13-2011, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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Besides the obvious differences in our levels of accomplishment and genetics, I would say there were clues. The disappointment when I told her what my major was and what I do for a living, when I admitted that I do eat meat sometimes, when I mentioned how little international traveling I've done. Leaving early instead of hanging around or going to get food afterward. The decidedly past-tense way she said "it was nice to have met you."
What's your major? And if she is that strict of a vegetarian that she is visibly deflated at the thought of eating meat, then you weren't a match anyways.
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Old 02-13-2011, 06:00 PM
 
Location: syracuse ny
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I like how you're scientifically using excuses why this won't work. Genetics...watching too many Ethan Hawke movies? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119177/

You admitted you eat meat occasionally. This might make you a vampire in her eyes.

I don't know I'm at a point in my life I've stopped trying for things I cannot have, and focused on what I can have. Libraries are full of books about young men seeing a woman of higher "station" and falling madly in love, and once you leave the youth section, most of them end up tragically.

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Old 02-13-2011, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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What's your major? And if she is that strict of a vegetarian that she is visibly deflated at the thought of eating meat, then you weren't a match anyways.
I have enough credits for two complete bachelor's degrees. I've done a lot of Philosophy, English, Economics, and Finance, but the only degree program I completed was Bachelor's in Finance. A lot of people view a business degree as the default degree of choice for the lowest common denominator, a way to not try very hard, and the refuge of the frat boy.

I think that she is okay with other people eating meat around her sometimes, but that she really sees herself with someone with similar dietary habits. So yes, not a match.
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Old 02-13-2011, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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I like how you're scientifically using excuses why this won't work. Genetics...watching too many Ethan Hawke movies? Gattaca (1997) - IMDb
No, I'm saying "genetics" as a proxy for looks, appearance, fine features, etc. But GATTACA is one my top three favorite all time films!!
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I don't know I'm at a point in my life I've stopped trying for things I cannot have, and focused on what I can have.
Yes, I'm really at that point too.
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