How long before she starts paying for dates? (educated, interest, dating)
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Does this hold true with your female (or male friends).
I'm not dating my friends so don't see what's the point. With my friends, each of us pay separately.
Now I do split the bill with my family (example: I was at a restaurant with my parents, baby brother, and two of my relatives.... split the bill in half). Those are my only exceptions of when I'll either split the bill or pay the whole thing: I asked the man out or I'm with my family.
Then find a woman who pays. Why is this so hard for you guys to grasp? Before you ask her out, let her know that you believe in equality and that she should pay her share or for the entire dinner. Lay it all on the table before the date so that there aren't any questions.
It's not difficult to grasp, because women like that aren't hard to find. I'm just engaging in the topic at hand.
Funny, I was taught those same things by a man who was a stand up husband and married to one woman for 26 years. Don't remember him saying anything about me paying for the first date or two with a woman.
And I must say, women seem to still like me. Hmm.
Nice try, though.
I'm not questioning your manhood, AT. I'm saying that *I* was socialized to think of this as essential masculine behavior. It seems quite odd to me that a man would have an issue for paying for a date, but whatever dude... if your date is willing to go along, cool. Who am I to object?
Again. Why are there only two extreme positions available for discussion?
Why must it be the man always pays or itemized bills?
Of course there aren't only two extreme positions, I'm just trying to make it easy.
What if you're sitting at dinner, the bill comes and she does nothing? Do you ask her to pay? Do you send her a bill for her half? Do you pay, but be passive aggressive about it?
I'm saying that *I* was socialized to think of this as essential masculine behavior. It seems quite odd to me that a man would have an issue for paying for a date, but whatever dude... if your date is willing to go along, cool. Who am I to object?
How about those socialized to think that women shouldn't work, shouldn't get educated, any number of things? It seems quite odd to some that a woman would want those things.
I'm not questioning your manhood, AT. I'm saying that *I* was socialized to think of this as essential masculine behavior. It seems quite odd to me that a man would have an issue for paying for a date, but whatever dude... if your date is willing to go along, cool. Who am I to object?
Once we start dating and I know it's a legit thing, I'll pay for dates and stuff.
It's not difficult to grasp, because women like that aren't hard to find. I'm just engaging in the topic at hand.
Is that alright ?
This topic comes up a few times a month here, it just seems silly to rehash the same thing over and over and over and over again.
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