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Me personally, looks alone doesn't do it. As a good looking guy, I don't value looks as much as an average looking guy, because I have it myself. What does she have to offer? Does she have a good job? Is she hard working? Is she a good person? Will she give me plenty of sex? Those are the things I look for. Hot women don't impress me.
So you're not a Joe Schmoe. Your experiences don't reflect what the average guy will go through. Maybe your looks compensate for your lack of this or that, but the average Joe doesn't have looks to fall back on. He has to work on other aspects to become a desirable man.
So you're not a Joe Schmoe. Your experiences don't reflect what the average guy will go through. Maybe your looks compensate for your lack of this or that, but the average Joe doesn't have looks to fall back on. He has to work on other aspects to become a desirable man.
Not disagreeing, but the implication that Joe Schmoes should better themselves while Plain Janes are told that the right guy will come and not holding her accountable for anything, is BS and sexist.
Yep some girls go for those model-10's, get used up and end up with baggage.
But there's an equal number of girls who are high-quality, attractive and respectable and don't go for them.
Like I said the first time, if guys want to overlook this, that's fine - there will be more quality girls for the guys who actually put in the effort.
You're missing the point.
Nobody's saying that girls are chasing after the male equivalent of the "dime piece." What people are saying is that men will deal with a number of women that are below their own level of attractiveness. Women, on the other hand, will only deal with men at, and preferably above, their own level of attractiveness. In some cases, this may result in the "6" chasing the male "10," but it's more commonly the male "8" who has a harem of "6s" who'd rather take a shot at him than settle with men of equal attractiveness. Alpha males deserve some blame in this, but the true culprit is Mother Nature, as we're all just doing what we're biologically wired to do.
Besides, being a male "10" has nothing to do with having "model" looks. An ugly, 5'8 extrovert with a quick wit, a deep rolodex and a "I make and break the rules" attitude will be more attractive to women than a 6'2 Ashton Kutcher lookalike who's shy and plays by the rules. Women dig power and looks rarely translate into the type of power women yearn for.
Not disagreeing, but the implication that Joe Schmoes should better themselves while Plain Janes are told that the right guy will come and not holding her accountable for anything, is BS and sexist.
It is but that's just the way the cookie crumbles.
On the bright side some men may look at this as an advantage since they are able to improve themselves in ways that will make them more attractive to women and have some control over it.
Nobody's saying that girls are chasing after the male equivalent of the "dime piece." What people are saying is that men will deal with a number of women that are below their own level of attractiveness. Women, on the other hand, will only deal with men at, and preferably above, their own level of attractiveness. In some cases, this may result in the "6" chasing the male "10," but it's more commonly the male "8" who has a harem of "6s" who'd rather take a shot at him than settle with men of equal attractiveness. Alpha males deserve some blame in this, but the true culprit is Mother Nature, as we're all just doing what we're biologically wired to do.
You can complain about it, but that's just the way the social hierarchy is. Women tend to date at their level or higher. No point in dwelling on something you can't change.
Alpha males deserve some blame in this, but the true culprit is Mother Nature, as we're all just doing what we're biologically wired to do.
They don't deserve blame. The women they're with do. They know they're part of a harem and they're allowing the guy to put their health at risk by sleeping with other women. If women keep going to them, is the guy really to blame? This gets right back to my point of not holding women accountable for their actions.
You can complain about it, but that's just the way the social hierarchy is. Women tend to date at their level or higher. No point in dwelling on something you can't change.
And many end up jaded and bitter because Mr. Alpha won't settle down or he cheats.
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That's quite an unusual concept... As a matter of fact, I've never heard of anybody not caring about looks because they have them.
You'd be surprised. Many good looking guys aren't impressed by hot women. Hot women are a dime a dozen. My dad married someone below him in looks. What does a hot woman have besides looks that an average-slightly above average woman can't provide?
And many end up jaded and bitter because Mr. Alpha won't settle down or he cheats.
You'd be surprised. Many good looking guys aren't impressed by hot women. Hot women are a dime a dozen. My dad married someone below him in looks. What does a hot woman have besides looks that an average-slightly above average woman can't provide?
Most "hot" women are average to below avg looking without makeup.
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