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Old 01-25-2020, 10:12 AM
 
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Who are these women looking for a money tree? If that were true, university enrollments wouldn't be majority women, even for many professional degree fields. What kind of women are you hanging out with? It sounds like you're dating HS grads or CC grads.

There are quite a few YouTube videos giving tips to women to step up their hypergamy games. It's called "leveling up."
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Old 01-25-2020, 10:43 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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There are quite a few YouTube videos giving tips to women to step up their hypergamy games. It's called "leveling up."

LOL. You can find anything you want online if you look hard enough for it. Just like every year you can find articles about a writer finding a couple of chicks in NYC or LA dating for meals. I prefer to let reality shape my views, and having dated for 30 something years in states all over, I've yet to run into one of these, and haven't heard of anyone running into one of these.
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Old 01-25-2020, 11:17 AM
 
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There are quite a few YouTube videos giving tips to women to step up their hypergamy games. It's called "leveling up."
Et tu, Ralph Kirk? You're smarter than that. I have great respect for your posting, generally.

In this day and age, the videos you mention are anachronisms. Society for the most part has moved on. Sure, there will be a few evolutionary throwbacks here and there, but they're a shrinking breed.
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Old 01-25-2020, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I have a woman friend who is the opposite.

She says most men are intimadated by her because she is very well off and worked for the same company for 27 years.

She says men she meets want a woman they feel they have to save and do things for....usually prefer to be the bread winner.

When they find out well off she is, it foils their plans to find a woman that needs to rely upon a man.

The men she meets feel the need to be relied upon all the time.
I've not met many men like that. Times are different these days. I think your woman friend is just searching for a reason why she is alone. That's the only thing she can think of.

I don't know any men these days who prefer to be the main breadwinner.
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Old 01-25-2020, 01:20 PM
 
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Et tu, Ralph Kirk? You're smarter than that. I have great respect for your posting, generally.

In this day and age, the videos you mention are anachronisms. Society for the most part has moved on. Sure, there will be a few evolutionary throwbacks here and there, but they're a shrinking breed.

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Well, these are young women making recent videos, so I don't know if it's shrinking or not. Historically, women have "married up," and there are videos as well from woman celebrities and even news spots about how difficult it's becoming for women to continue to "marry up,." Again, is it really shrinking when it's a valid network news item that it's harder for women to "marry up" these days...and that's presented as a problem for women?


Until the mass of women are willing to "marry down" as men have done historically, it's hard to say that those who are seeking to "marry up" are a shrinking breed. I don't think professional women have come to that gut realization yet.



But that is a reminder of the danger of generalizations from either direction. There are some women out there who are doubling down on being gold-diggers, and there are men who have "taken the red pill" in reaction and are "going their own way" to be deliberate players.


This is creating some different rules of the game for wealthier men such as, "Never marry a woman who makes less than you" in order to avoid the divorce trap of being forced to maintain a woman for life at "the manner to which she has become accustomed." Laws have not caught up to the new relationship realities.
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Old 01-25-2020, 01:24 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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What laws? How are laws coming into this? People generally marry peers because that is who they meet and have things in common with. Been that way for over a generation.
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Old 01-25-2020, 01:25 PM
 
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Well, these are young women making recent videos, so I don't know if it's shrinking or not. Historically, women have "married up," and there are videos as well from woman celebrities and even news spots about how difficult it's becoming for women to continue to "marry up,." Again, is it really shrinking when it's a valid network news item that it's harder for women to "marry up" these days...and that's presented as a problem for women?


Until the mass of women are willing to "marry down" as men have done historically, it's hard to say that those who are seeking to "marry up" are a shrinking breed. I don't think professional women have come to that gut realization yet.



But that is a reminder of the danger of generalizations from either direction. There are some women out there who are doubling down on being gold-diggers, and there are men who have "taken the red pill" in reaction and are "going their own way" to be deliberate players.


This is creating some different rules of the game for wealthier men such as, "Never marry a woman who makes less than you" in order to avoid the divorce trap of being forced to maintain a woman for life at "the manner to which she has become accustomed." Laws have not caught up to the new relationship realities.
There are also women who are marrying down, and that's been happening for....idk, since sometime in the 90's, when I noticed it. The trend doesn't fit the cliche news grinder, so you don't hear about it much. It's been a quiet trend, though.
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Old 01-25-2020, 03:17 PM
 
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Well, these are young women making recent videos, so I don't know if it's shrinking or not. Historically, women have "married up," and there are videos as well from woman celebrities and even news spots about how difficult it's becoming for women to continue to "marry up,." Again, is it really shrinking when it's a valid network news item that it's harder for women to "marry up" these days...and that's presented as a problem for women?


Until the mass of women are willing to "marry down" as men have done historically, it's hard to say that those who are seeking to "marry up" are a shrinking breed. I don't think professional women have come to that gut realization yet.



But that is a reminder of the danger of generalizations from either direction. There are some women out there who are doubling down on being gold-diggers, and there are men who have "taken the red pill" in reaction and are "going their own way" to be deliberate players.


This is creating some different rules of the game for wealthier men such as, "Never marry a woman who makes less than you" in order to avoid the divorce trap of being forced to maintain a woman for life at "the manner to which she has become accustomed." Laws have not caught up to the new relationship realities.
All types. All types

What is "marrying up" or "marrying down" anyway? Both men and women have their preferences. And generally, that is what they go for.
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Old 01-25-2020, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I have to laugh at the idea that a woman is horrible for trying to marry a man with more money than she has.

And men can marry "up" without being labeled a gold digger or prostitute, the labels that many women get.

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Old 01-25-2020, 04:50 PM
 
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I have to laugh at the idea that a woman is horrible for trying to marry a man with more money than she has.

And men can marry "up" without being labeled a gold digger or prostitute, the labels that many women get.
The interesting thing about men marrying "up", is that the people warning women about them are other men, not women, generally. It's such a common warning to women who own their own home, that one might conclude it's very common. If not "marrying up", then at least--marrying for free shelter.
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