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Originally Posted by ShellNic
Yep...attitude and tone are everything...which is funny because here we are...writing...and so many of us get irritated with implied tone...I'm guilty of it, I admit!
Yes, it's like, unless you don't use a whole arsenal of smileys you come off as cold and impersonal.
Are most people offended by "female" also offended by "male", and want to replace them both with man/woman for consistency's sake?
When people say they are offended by "female" because it sounds like it is clinical/scientific or relates to animals, do they mean that in general, they think either "male" or "female" shouldn't be used and changed to human-specific terms like man, woman, girl, boy?
If so, then it's not specific to one gender/sex, right?
Are most people offended by "female" also offended by "male", and want to replace them both with man/woman?
When people say they are offended by "female" because it sounds like it is clinical/scientific or relates to animals, do they mean that in general, they think either "male" or "female" shouldn't be used and changed to human-specific terms like man, woman, girl, boy.
Most people in the course of a casual conversation do not refer to men as "males" as they do with women by calling us "females".
I hate that practice and it smacks of a lower class mentality. It is not even appropriate to attempt to use the word as part of a "compliment" (ie fine or good looking "females") It is just a turn off.
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Are most people offended by "female" also offended by "male", and want to replace them both with man/woman for consistency's sake?
When people say they are offended by "female" because it sounds like it is clinical/scientific or relates to animals, do they mean that in general, they think either "male" or "female" shouldn't be used and changed to human-specific terms like man, woman, girl, boy?
If so, then it's not specific to one gender/sex, right?
The main objection seems to be that it objectifies women. Of course these same feminists will turn right around and talk about those aggressive, domineering, oppressive males all day long.
I hear people talk about 'males' and 'females', refer to themselves as 'male', 'female' and A male, and A female (never occurred to me that this usage is incorrect...people have strange ideas ) all the time. I don't give it a second thought.
We're animals, get over it. Stop acting as if we're so different.
The main objection seems to be that it objectifies women. Of course these same feminists will turn right around and talk about those aggressive, domineering, oppressive males all day long.
I hear people talk about 'males' and 'females', refer to themselves as 'male', 'female' and A male, and A female (never occurred to me that this usage is incorrect...people have strange ideas ) all the time. I don't give it a second thought.
We're animals, get over it. Stop acting as if we're so different.
I think of male and female as literal, mundane words too so that's why it's puzzling me.
Maybe there's some regionalism in usage of "female" or in social circles we don't belong to, with some socio-linguistic nuances that we're failing to grasp?
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I think of male and female as literal, mundane words too so that's why it's puzzling me.
Maybe there's some regionalism in usage of "female" or in social circles we don't belong to, with some socio-linguistic nuances that we're failing to grasp?
Yeah extreme feminism is like another world to me sometimes (as opposed to those who actually extol the original principles of feminism), and I'm in most regards far from chauvinistic. But even I'm too chauvinistic sometimes for their standards. First rule of any blind, extremist movement, if someone says something you don't like, accuse them of being a hateful bigot.
It'd be weird if someone constantly referred to women as 'females' instead of women, but I don't see that. We mostly say 'men', 'women', 'boys', 'girls' (or other terms for those outside the US). Sometimes we say 'male' and 'female', what's wrong with mixing it up a bit?
You don't say male and female when referring to a dog. You don't say "Come here, male! Good male!", because it has a specific name - dog. So why doing it with people?
Because it makes us sound like objects, as opposed to humans.
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) all the time. I don't give it a second thought. 
