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I just realized something, and I'm sure its been said before but people will probably still want to chime in.
Desirable women who are in a position to be a picky will date/be in a relationship with a man that looks average, or even below average, because he's an all around good guy/desirable beyond just looks. Obviously there are exceptions but in general there is nothing about an average looking guy's body stopping him from getting the women he would want.
As a guy I can say that it's totally opposite for me. Being totally honest here, as long as a girl passes a threshold of niceness and we get along reasonably well I'm going to take some personality, employment, and confidence issues there may be in exchange for being attractive. Just to be clear I'm not going to date a hot chick who is a horrible person or a "gold digger" but I'd take a girl with a "quirky" personality and a nice figure any day.
Both of these are within reason of course. I'm just talking about minor differences. A beautiful woman with a decent personality and sense of morals isn't going date a troll for his money and I'm not going to date an insane woman even if she is stunning. Best way to put it is women will compromise on looks and men will compromise on personality.
The interesting thing to me though is that people's knee jerk reaction to this is "Men are shallow and only care about looks, they're awful! I'm born destined to look like I do!" Although I do care about looks and will not date someone I don't think is "hot" how is that any worse than the women who pass up otherwise "attractive" guys because of something like employment, or an anxiety issue? I know most women find living at home (25+) to be a turn off. Actually I'd even say its more "shallow" because that's rarely a choice. At the same time for a lot people looks are something that can be altered to at least reach a decent level without a ton of effort and maybe even get a few health bennifits along the way.
Even taking this a level further I'd say how is being a player dramatically different than the girls that use a network of interested male friends to accomplish their goals with no concern about misleading the guys? Both are using people for their own interests while the one being used is hoping for more.
I just realized something, and I'm sure its been said before but people will probably still want to chime in.
Desirable women who are in a position to be a picky will date/be in a relationship with a man that looks average, or even below average, because he's an all around good guy/desirable beyond just looks. Obviously there are exceptions but in general there is nothing about an average looking guy's body stopping him from getting the women he would want.
As a guy I can say that it's totally opposite for me. Being totally honest here, as long as a girl passes a threshold of niceness and we get along reasonably well I'm going to take some personality, employment, and confidence issues there may be in exchange for being attractive. Just to be clear I'm not going to date a hot chick who is a horrible person or a "gold digger" but I'd take a girl with a "quirky" personality and a nice figure any day.
Both of these are within reason of course. I'm just talking about minor differences. A beautiful woman with a decent personality and sense of morals isn't going date a troll for his money and I'm not going to date an insane woman even if she is stunning. Best way to put it is women will compromise on looks and men will compromise on personality.
The interesting thing to me though is that people's knee jerk reaction to this is "Men are shallow and only care about looks, they're awful! I'm born destined to look like I do!" Although I do care about looks and will not date someone I don't think is "hot" how is that any worse than the women who pass up otherwise "attractive" guys because of something like employment, or an anxiety issue? I know most women find living at home (25+) to be a turn off. Actually I'd even say its more "shallow" because that's rarely a choice. At the same time for a lot people looks are something that can be altered to at least reach a decent level without a ton of effort and maybe even get a few health bennifits along the way.
Even taking this a level further I'd say how is being a player dramatically different than the girls that use a network of interested male friends to accomplish their goals with no concern about misleading the guys? Both are using people for their own interests while the one being used is hoping for more.
What's your question, besides the player one, at the end? Players and the women you describe (I'm not sure I even understand that scenario) are somewhat fringe phenomena. Why are you concerned with that? They don't represent most people in either gender.
Just thought people would either agree with me, or tell me I was wrong. Wanted to see what the people who disagree had to say is all. You know a discussion.
I was wondering what this thread meant too. Personally I don't believe in settling no matter how something may seem. Personality should be important because looks fade but at the same time I don't want Quasimodo's brother.
Just thought people would either agree with me, or tell me I was wrong. Wanted to see what the people who disagree had to say is all. You know a discussion.
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