I will never understand white southern girls...... (vs, looking, different)
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This is probably more true in rural Southern areas than it is in the metro Southern areas, though even there, you see that those Southerners who have hung on to the more traditional ways will pair up.
i'm of the opinion that:
a. southern culture glorifies the rural
b. "metro southern area", culturally speaking, is an oxymoron.
It has a little bit to do with racism, and a bias against the "swarthy eye-talians".
It has a little bit do to with culture, and a preference for the masculine / old-fashioned southern men, vs. the metrosexual northern men.
Yes, as much as people do not want to admit here, racism does play a small part. They might think of it as their "preference" for white guys because that's what they're used to, but in reality it comes with not wanting the undue stress of bringing an ethnic guy home to the parents. This much is true.
Example: I have a co-worker, typical buxom Southern beauty, who is "secretly" dating the handsome buff Mexican guy in our office. Because it's an in office romance, she keeps it on a down low, but I've known this girl for quite a while and met her parents who are middle class and live out in the boonies past town. I could tell part of the problem would be the unneeded stress of bringing an ethnic guy home to such a true Texas dad.
It's a culture thing too. If the guy is not "manly" in the sense that he doesn't drive a truck, has a country swagger, an accent yet is a "gentleman", then you're not going to win over them.
I'm a Yankee, Greek Mediterranean looking yippie (hippie + yuppie) and I've indulged the more liberal minded southern gals, but even then it would never get to a serious level because of family.
I am talking about the type of gals that love Pat Green, can work in the city but would never want to live there, drink beer, have a traditional more conservative mindset, love to get on the boat and take a pic with a cowboy hat and a beer in the other hand. You guys know the type.
are you really implying that the jersey shore type, guidos, metrosexuals, etc are attractive ???
Well, not guidos. In the north you have guys who work on their bodies but they're not guidos, they're just city guys. Think of Matt Damon from Good Will Hunting or perhaps the Italian or Greek American with the buzz cut.
Or you have the yuppies, Ivy League private school jocks, like the John Kracksinksi (sp?) from The Office.
I mean class lines are much more apparent in the Northeast where you either got it or you don't.
In the South, you have what I have noticed are 30k millionaires where with a 30k job, a credit card and a desire to party, you can go far and make it look like you make double that amount.
Le Roi is bringing down the house, I love it. Spot on analysis.
Yes, Southern guys tend to be pretty out of shape compared to Northern fellas. They also tend to be less stylish and more prideful about their faults. I guess this is their charm. Not all are like this but there tends to be more of the type.
Do not get me wrong. I love partying with these guys because they make up for it with their wit and the personality. They're out going and funny and tend not to play the competition game so much like Northern guys who are just jerks.
Southern guys literally are good ol' boys. OLD BOYS. That is not so much a bad thing, either.
Racism is as much a part of it as any factor, not because of the girls being racist themselves, but because of social norms.
Culture, Southern culture, is a pride issue and dating anything less than a good ol' boy is like settling for less than a man.
It's a culture thing too. If the guy is not "manly" in the sense that he doesn't drive a truck, has a country swagger, an accent yet is a "gentleman", then you're not going to win over them.
I'm a Yankee, Greek Mediterranean looking yippie (hippie + yuppie) and I've indulged the more liberal minded southern gals, but even then it would never get to a serious level because of family.
This helps with the visual, somewhat. I don't need to tell you that if you're Greek, your white, right? I know that Greeks run a big gamut in looks, too, just like the Italians. A couple of questions: (1) could it be because of the hippie component...just asking (2) whose family impeded - hers or your cultural norms, or are you presuming, and (3) can you date transplanted women? It's easier. I used to live in Atlanta.
Story: From Seattle, Vancouver Canada was a couple of hours away. I found a Portuguese restaurant I liked, and the few times I went in there, a young Portuguese girl would wait on me and was super friendly. Being kind of young, she once said to me, "Oh my God, you remind me of a guy from high school." I told her "I could biologically be your Dad, so maybe then an older version of him." I then asked her, "Is he Portuguese?" She said "No, he's white." I was pi$$ed, because somewhere in developing her identity, she determined she was not white. I asked her "What continent is Portugal on?" She said, "Europe." I told her, "All Europeans are white."
It's a culture thing too. If the guy is not "manly" in the sense that he doesn't drive a truck, has a country swagger, an accent yet is a "gentleman", then you're not going to win over them.
Not always, some of us love our personal version of Rhett Butler, lol! (the style, the class, the intellect, the CHARM!)
Yes, of course that story is typical in the South. If you're not blonde haired blue eyed then you're not white. The subtle racialism (not racism) is as bad as South African Apartheid. That girl thinks of herself as non-white because culture is also involved.
In Boston, where I am from, Portuguese run amok in the outskirts, meaning there is a huge Portuguese and Brazilian population there. Many consider themselves and Portuguese as white, ethnic of course, but still white. In Texas, they would be considered Hispanic, Latino, not white.
I've been asked down here, because I look stereotypically Greek (dark hair, hazel eyes, five a clock shadow all the time, olive skin) if I am half Mexican or part Hispanic or Italian. But the premise is that I am different.
The last southern belle I used to date, really thought of me as different even though I considered us the same; white.
A.) I am very hippie, yippie, yuppie, love Patagonia brand, eating organic, drive a jeep with the bike rack.
B.) I am (for Southern tastes) "ethnic"..
This why I know it's a culture thing, because I love to fish, hike and even hunt but in a very different way. I like to bow hunt, river fishing, and hike in city parks. Just a casual thing too. Don't have dozens of pics of the things I've caught like their fathers would have all over their wall.
They make it a pride thing and a culture thing to distinguish themselves from city folk.
Le Roi is bringing down the house, I love it. Spot on analysis.
Yes, Southern guys tend to be pretty out of shape compared to Northern fellas. They also tend to be less stylish and more prideful about their faults. I guess this is their charm. Not all are like this but there tends to be more of the type.
Definitely. As a male newcomer to the south, pretty much everything you do will be seen as trying too hard.
Dress too nice? Car too nice? Use lotion? Hair products? Spend too much time at the gym? Been to a tanning salon? All of those are signals that will automatically bring your masculinity into question, among women.
On the other hand, one of my good buddies growing up is one incredibly UGLY dude. He's like a misshapen 6'4 lump of clay, a ginger, with a great deal of physical strength. Women love him like they love Bear Grylls, because of how capable he is outdoors.. whether that's fixing a boat motor, or cleaning a deer, or making his own moonshine, or knowing where to catch fish -- the guy just exudes male competence, and he looks the part. People know bad-ass when they see it.
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Do not get me wrong. I love partying with these guys because they make up for it with their wit and the personality. They're out going and funny and tend not to play the competition game so much like Northern guys who are just jerks.
Southern guys literally are good ol' boys. OLD BOYS. That is not so much a bad thing, either.
Exactly, the archetype of the good old boy would be like: The lawyer, who drives a chevy pickup, who uses his extra money to farm, and has a beach house he doesn't ever talk about.
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Racism is as much a part of it as any factor, not because of the girls being racist themselves, but because of social norms.
Culture, Southern culture, is a pride issue and dating anything less than a good ol' boy is like settling for less than a man.
Culture plays a much bigger role than race. If you're Greek, race is NO excuse. Southern belles are way susceptible to high-class South American / Latin American men.
Last edited by le roi; 04-02-2012 at 01:59 PM..
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