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Old 04-07-2012, 04:46 AM
 
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I only skimmed it but what a strange article. I don't think either gender is trained to hate the other. And not all men and women are alike.
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Old 04-07-2012, 05:43 AM
 
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Thoughts?
I thought the article was all over the place. But , in general, men aren't "taught" or "trained" these things.

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Old 04-07-2012, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Where Dance Music comes first
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That's why An Officer and A Gentleman was such a success. It played to women's Prince Charming fantasy as much as it played to men's hero fantasy.
In other words, women are trained to hate men just as much, right?
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Old 04-07-2012, 08:03 AM
 
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I agreed with the article seeing as how I see many men I've experienced/observed in rela life, seen on this board, and on plenty of MRA sites showing this behavior. However when presented with the article those who showed those check off point behaviors started denying then backpedaling when presented with their behavior.

To me there are plenty more ways men are taught to hate women and being taught something doesn't mean you'll learn it just that's it's there existing.

From my experiences/observations it's uncommon to see many men who hate women but not uncommon to see many men who have some hatred of women. Fortunately most of these many men don't do well with having sex and relationships with women ironically some attribute this lack of success to being a good/decent/nice guy.

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A lot of men are disagreeing with the article, however there have been several male posters who made threads with the same sense of entitlement.

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Old 04-07-2012, 12:27 PM
 
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#1. We Feel Powerless

At work, men are considered disposable as employers try to keep the advocates for women and minorities happy. It matters little how productive most men are

#2. We Feel Like Manhood Was Stolen from Us at Some Point

Now, all these years later, men still have the burdens and have lost every advantage. Clueless people are now asking why men are no longer thriving and have in general, lost interest in marrying and supporting women!

#3. We Think You're Conspiring With Our Boners to Ruin Us

In that case, most men are lucky because women who are capable of doing this to them, have no interest in them.

#4. We're Trained from Birth to See You as Decoration

so far from reality to be laughable.

#5. We Were Told That Society Owed Us a Hot Girl

I suppose that there are a small percentage of highly desirable men – the type women crave – who probably believe this.
He's right all along, but I've selected certain portions:
#1. most troublemakers in the workplace, from what I've seen, are women...if they're feminists or lesbians, they are even better at making trouble.
#2. has nothing to do with manhood. It has everything to do with minding one's finances.
#3. vaginas can cause a lot of trouble, too, unless they've had a tubal
#4. no, we were conditioned to head up a household, and seeing how that's a liability, we've changed our tune
#5. yeah, right...this applies to the very rich, the star football or basketball players in school, and a few surfers (based on where I grew up). I never heard an Ivy League alum, even one who wasn't a nerd, make this claim.
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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So- what I'm getting is that the reasons listed in the article for hating women are not accurate - but not because the men on here don't hate women - but because they have different reasons for hating us... Good to know!

Oh - and those reasons are all our fault. Forgot to add that!
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:32 PM
 
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Yes, THE Julia Roberts, the big screen sweetheart of the 1990s who stood up Kiefer Sutherland before their wedding, slept with all kinds of leading men then ran off with some nobody on the set of one of her movies. She was obviously a gold digger that one
Read #47. Most guys don't even talk about her. She's pedestrian. Her Smyrna, GA (not so cool suburb of Atlanta) roots show through. That area was nicknamed "Smegma." Look it up, if you don't know what it means.
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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Read #47. Most guys don't even talk about her. She's pedestrian. Her Smyrna, GA (not so cool suburb of Atlanta) roots show through. That area was nicknamed "Smegma." Look it up, if you don't know what it means.
LOL! So what you are saying is that you wouldn't "settle" for Julia?
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:35 PM
 
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OP, whining and bitching about how "society" forces you to do things is frankly beta male-esque.

Why do or would you detest all women anyhow?
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:48 PM
 
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LOL! So what you are saying is that you wouldn't "settle" for Julia?
If the non-celebrity equivalent of her were walking around the neighborhood or school or workplace, that is correct. I wouldn't think she was that great. She is, by no means, a standard of beauty.

She can't hold a candle, looks wise, to this:
http://www.etoday.ru/uploads/2008/02/13/melina_kanakaredes.jpg (http://www.etoday.ru/uploads/2008/02/13/melina_kanakaredes.jpghttp:// - broken link)
And, no, I don't feel entitled, as per item #5.

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