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Old 04-16-2012, 12:52 AM
 
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It's not an assumption when it's happened.

It's happened for the Bengals with a few players. It's happened to every team in the league. Yes, players have partied so hard that there careers in the NFL have been F'd up. I think many of these players aren't married, but it doesn't just apply to single players.

That's why there's a 2nd chance policy in the NFL. Young players married or not, make stupid mistakes because they are young and dumb and are handed millions to play a game.

I'm willing to bet that there are more single players than married players who have been kicked out of the league or have been placed in that program to give additional chances because of poor decisions that have lead to criminal charges and jail time.
Proportionally I would bet it's almost the same
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:41 AM
 
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Agree completely
Some guys are going to **** their money away and party like crazy and some won't
Being married has a neglible effect at best on this
I diagree. Marriage is not a cure all, but I beliee the difference in behavior in married vs. non-married is significant. Marriage tends to calm men down.
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Old 04-16-2012, 06:41 AM
 
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It's not to that level of crazy for the single players, but more than likely, married men aren't as likely to do something super crazy because they have to think about his family before going out to party.

And players coming out of college getting big contracts aren't adults. They're kids who've trained most of there lives for the big contracts they are going to receive when they are drafted.

I mean what would you do when you turn 21 and get out of college and someone hands you a 20 million dollar check as a signing bonus? Bet it's not stick it in the bank, they're going to go party, and probably party pretty hard when these guys get a chance
Not necessarily. I played Div I college ball but never expected to make pro. But had I done so, I would have partied, sure - but only for a day or two. I would have spent money, sure - but very little. The vast majority of my bonus money would have been banked in solid investments, not to be touched, and I would have been set for life.
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Old 04-16-2012, 06:56 AM
 
Location: New Zealand and Australia
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Three of the most successful sporting teams downunder, all live by the OP.
NZ Breakers, Canterbury Crusaders and All Blacks. They have all embrased the viewpoint better people make better players.
As much as anything its the culture they are in that makes them successful. Work on your game and train on your game with 100% effort. A pro off the field, eat healthy no staying out late, no drug taking minimal drinking, none when recovering from injury.

Have balance in life, with family life and keeping up with community activities that benefit the community. If you as a person cannot meet that criteria, you won't get a look in to the squads. Their massive success is testament to these principles they live by.
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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But again PF, that's only an assumption. Does anyone have any faith that these single players wouldn't screw the careers they worked their asses off for just because their single? Just because a guy is single doesn't mean he still doesn't have his financial future and career to think about.
Its not a assumption. They did a study thats says anywhere from 60-70% of these guys will go broke within five years of retiring.

Recession or no recession, many NFL, NBA and Major League - 03.23.09 - SI Vault

How Millionaire Athletes Spend Their Money and Go Bankrupt: Sports: GQ

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Not necessarily. I played Div I college ball but never expected to make pro. But had I done so, I would have partied, sure - but only for a day or two. I would have spent money, sure - but very little. The vast majority of my bonus money would have been banked in solid investments, not to be touched, and I would have been set for life.
^^^^^^^^ See above, most of them don't do that.
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:02 AM
 
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Lots of companies prefer married workers, because it implies stability.
I knew this was coming. Not necessarily so. It's a cultural bias, and reflects a company's culture. It's borderline redneck, IMO. So, what's better then, a person who is on their third marriage with contentiousness going on in the background from custody battles et al....or a person that hasn't married. There are plenty of stories of single people who have had stable experiences with companies: (a) a story of a lady at Delta who spent her life there, was always single, lived in a humble ATL area, and had no one to leave her small fortune to, and (b) they did a homepage feature on people who had never switched jobs since college and they showed this single guy who had worked at Prudential in NJ his whole life. It's a chicken and egg issue. If the culture favors "married" folks, the single folks will say eff you and move on, so it's not really a reflection of their stability, it's a reflection of the employer's narrow-mindedness.

No one answered what makes a great wife yet, per the OP title?
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:07 AM
 
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Lots of companies prefer married workers, because it implies stability.
Completely disagree with this. Most hiring managers will equate a married individual with family...aka vacations, months needed off for maternity leave, doctors appointments, unexpected times when one will need to leave early or come in late for various different reasons.

I do not have a husband or kids=no immediate obligations=at work more consistently then those with family.
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:30 AM
 
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I do not have a husband or kids=no immediate obligations=at work more consistently then those with family.
You had better believe it. Call comes in to work - kid is in the principal's office for fighting, parent-employee takes off. Time off when kid is sick. Time off to take kid to the doctor. Time off to watch kid's sporting event. Etc. etc. I have no complaints with it at all. Just don't say single people are irresponsible. It's more of a condescending attitude on the part of employers where the culture rewards married people.

But, back to the NFL and professional sports, I could see a small amount of validity in that because they are lumped in with ENTERTAINMENT folks, most of whom have circuitous love lives. For people who are going to work in a hospital, an engineering firm or a school, I doubt there is a correlation between their being single and their ability to produce work.
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:08 PM
 
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I knew this was coming. Not necessarily so. It's a cultural bias, and reflects a company's culture. It's borderline redneck, IMO. So, what's better then, a person who is on their third marriage with contentiousness going on in the background from custody battles et al....or a person that hasn't married. There are plenty of stories of single people who have had stable experiences with companies: (a) a story of a lady at Delta who spent her life there, was always single, lived in a humble ATL area, and had no one to leave her small fortune to, and (b) they did a homepage feature on people who had never switched jobs since college and they showed this single guy who had worked at Prudential in NJ his whole life. It's a chicken and egg issue. If the culture favors "married" folks, the single folks will say eff you and move on, so it's not really a reflection of their stability, it's a reflection of the employer's narrow-mindedness.

No one answered what makes a great wife yet, per the OP title?
Jacksonville has some cool aspects, but it also has that shariah/religious right thing going on too, so I'm not surprised by this news. Of course, athletes make a ton of money, so its worth putting up with it. But for a run of the mill job, I wouldn't put up with an intrusive employer like this
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:37 PM
 
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Jacksonville has some cool aspects, but it also has that shariah/religious right thing going on too, so I'm not surprised by this news. Of course, athletes make a ton of money, so its worth putting up with it. But for a run of the mill job, I wouldn't put up with an intrusive employer like this
No, whether in the Bay Area or the Tidewater Virginia, an employer who makes an issue of this is borderline redneck. That's what I meant.

I've been to Jacksonville. I like its beaches for a few days (Fernandina, Ponte Vedra, etc.)
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