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Old 04-26-2012, 10:14 AM
 
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Ladies, thank you for the replies. Reps are coming for all of you . Now, for some clarifications:

Actually, I don't really like action movies. I am a bit of a film snob and tend to stick with either classics, dramas or independent films. To put it in perspective, a few of my favorite movies are Citizen Kane, Chinatown, The Maltese Falcon, The Godfather, Lawrence of Arabia, Seven Samurai and Wild Strawberries (I am in my mid 20s if you are curious.) My favorite movie from last year was The Artist. In perspective, to the dismay of a lot of my friends, I did not like 300 or Gladiator.

Now, as for the particular "techniques" (forgive the vernacular, I was hurrying to the gym and couldn't find a different term at the time,) I think the most commonly used "approach" (is that better?) is when the guy friend completely confesses his love for the girl. Every piece of advice I read or am told basically says that doing something like that will more than likely freak her out as opposed to having her reciprocate. Basically, the general principle is to save the romantic gestures until she is actually your girlfriend; when you use them before it will only serve to overwhelm her and maybe scare her off. Now, I am not too well versed in romantic movies or books, but let me give a select few examples of approaches.

"Scott Pilgrim vs the World." Disclaimer: I actually like this movie. It's stupid fun and it captures the graphic novel feel quite well. In the movie, the main protagonist sees the girl of his dreams, and tries to approach her at a party but uses a lame opener consisting of why the video game "Pac-Man" has its name changed from Puck-man to Pac-Man. He strikes out, badly, so he finds out that she works as a delivery girl for Amazon.ca, and he orders something so she can deliver it to his door. He uses it to ask her out, and despite her saying no at first eventually gets her to say yes. Needless to say, this goes along with the "if she says no, ask her a second time and she might say yes," but it rarely if ever works in real life.

"Twilight." What is the appeal of Edward? He is creepy, stalkerish and borderline abusive, so I am not sure why some girls think he is awesome. I know that watching a girl sleep would be one of the fastest ways to land me a restraining order or a trip to a psychiatrist's office.

"The Notebook." Allie pretty much cheats on Lon in order to get with Noah, but instead of that being seen as unfaithful and a jerk thing to do it's viewed under a romantic light because "they are meant to be together." Why couldn't she have broken up with him before doing that? Why does Noah become jealous and actively try to win her back when he sees them kissing? What did Lon do to deserve that? Is it more romantic and beautiful because Noah is poor whilst Lon is rich? Lon, unlike other rich love rivals in other stories, is a pretty good guy. Unlike the dude from Titanic who was a total douche and who you wanted to see sink to the bottom of the Atlantic with the ship, Lon was a nice guy. Why does Noah even question whether Lon is a good man or not? Once a woman is engaged, she is off limits and should not be attempted on to be won back. It seemed like Noah had no respect for that, but in the context of the movie that's romantic. In real life, any other guy who acted like Noah did would be branded a jerk or a homewrecker. Plus, there's the fact that he wrote 365 straight letters to her. Wouldn't that be viewed today in real life as obsessive and borderline stalkerish?

Finally, last example is from "Just Friends." Nerdy fat guy becomes tall, hot and successful years after being rejected by the girl of his dreams. Things happen, they reunite, he hesitates to do anything with her, they fight over stupid things, he goes to her places and declares his love and she reciprocates. This one kind of hits a little closer to home for me, as I used to be fat and a total dork in High School, but eventually got into fitness and bodybuilding. I never got my old crush back, but I wonder what it is about the whole fighting, then leaving, then confessing love, then having it reciprocated. I know that the prospect of reuniting with an old flame years later is very, very rare (even more so if she is still unattached,) but the whole fighting then love confession does make me wonder.

Ugh, this went longer than I expected, sorry! Hope this clarifies a bit.
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:18 AM
 
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Ladies, this is something that I have been pondering for awhile, and I would like your honest introspective thought about it.

I know that romantic movies are quite popular with women in general (I know, blanket statement but I would like to use it for the purposes of this question,) and while all romantic movies have different plots and casts, the most common formula of these movies is: boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy gets girl. Occasionally, when a popular romantic movie comes out there will be ladies amongst my circle of friends who will say, "Why can't more men be like (insert male protagonist)?" However, it has been commonly repeated that these romantic movies are quite unrealistic, and that an average guy who uses the same techniques of the Romantic Film Protagonist will more than likely get shot down, even if said techniques were done to a woman who likes said respective film.

This leads me to wonder: Why do (most) women like these movies, if they are unrealistic, and if they don't work if a guy in real life tries to use those techniques? I know that movies are in their nature designed to be unrealistic, and that even though I am a person who rolls his eyes at absurd of overly-unrealistic plots I do enjoy that escape from reality, but romance seems to be one of those themes that could be the most feasible in actual execution, especially when said woman asks why men can't be more like a certain protagonist.

In layman's terms: Why do women like romantic movies if, in most cases, a guy using what he sees in a movie will lead to rejection, or other negative associations? I look forward to the discussion .
Forget the part of your sentence that continues with "If".

You are over-thinking this.

Women simply enjoy these movies because everyone needs a little fantasy in their lives - that's all.
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:18 AM
 
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I am one woman who hates chick flicks and romantic movies. If people think movies, books and TV are real, they're stupid.
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:30 AM
 
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"Twilight." What is the appeal of Edward? He is creepy, stalkerish and borderline abusive, so I am not sure why some girls think he is awesome. I know that watching a girl sleep would be one of the fastest ways to land me a restraining order or a trip to a psychiatrist's office.

Ugh, this went longer than I expected, sorry! Hope this clarifies a bit.
LOL I don't know why you think you should personally employ tactics you see in a movie. I like twilight and think Edward is as hot as can be...for a fictional character. Unless you're a fictional character it's unlikely to work for you.

I also LOVE the walking dead. It's just fantasy to get lost in for a spell. It doesn't mean I have an interest in experiencing a zombie apocalypse. Although, I have been considering learning how to shoot a gun.
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:31 AM
 
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I also LOVE the walking dead. It's just fantasy to get lost in for a spell. It doesn't mean I have an interest in experiencing a zombie apocalypse. Although, I have been considering learning how to shoot a gun.
You're kidding right?

The Zombie Apocalypse is going to ROCK
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:34 AM
 
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You're kidding right?

The Zombie Apocalypse is going to ROCK
I keep telling my husband that he's going to be dead weight when the time comes and our dog won't last two minutes. I did have a zombie dream the other night. It was pretty fantastic. Figures you like zombies! Great minds and all.
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:37 AM
 
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I keep telling my husband that he's going to be dead weight when the time comes and our dog won't last two minutes. I did have a zombie dream the other night. It was pretty fantastic. Figures you like zombies! Great minds and all.
What's a zombie? In these parts, we call them Walkers
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:39 AM
 
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What's a zombie? In these parts, we call them Walkers
Hopefully you are seeing by now that the point we are all making is, we like fantasy!

Romantic chick flicks are just one kind of fantasy, not an instruction book for guys on what women want in real life, okay?
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:42 AM
 
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What's a zombie? In these parts, we call them Walkers
HA!

But to add some romance, I'm madly in lust with Daryl.
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:42 AM
 
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One thing you see in every rom-com is the initial sexual encounter between the star couple, they ALWAYS have somewhat rough, tear-your-clothes-off sex... and usually on the first date!

This is akin to porn, so why would most women accept this? I guess cuz it implies great passion... but in reality, first encounters are usually gentle, tentative, quick, and usually at least 3 dates down the road.

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