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Old 04-28-2012, 05:44 PM
 
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I'm trying to be sympathetic to how she feels.

My man proposed to me a month ago today. We shared the news with our family and friends but I guess we left someone out. When my Fiancé's baby mama, we'll call her Tess, dropped off their son (her mom has her son most the time and that's who normally drops him off) yesterday she noticed the ring on my finger and I shared the news with her. She said congratulations and didn't show any disdain towards hearing the news. Let me say that her and I are cordial, there's never been any drama, ever. I've always thought she was a sweet person. We've even hung out a few times.

This morning I get a call from my Fiancé's grandmother saying Tess called her very upset. She said that Tess was upset at the news of us getting married and felt that it was a slap in the face because she gave my Fiancé six years of her life and a son, how could he marry me after only three years. How could he marry someone who doesn't even want kids. My initial reaction was to call Tess and curse her the f*%# out but I remembered that I'm suppose to have compassion & empathy towards others (I've been meditating for the pass few weeks and I'm learning to be more positive). I told my Fiancé about this and he also reminded me of my reasons for meditation, he said that this is probably my first test, lol.

I'm struggling with it though. First off, I can't sympathize with any woman who thinks a man is suppose to marry them because they have a kid together, I never knew she felt this way. Secondly, how dare she imply that me not wanting kids is some flaw men should be repulsed by? I feel she got it backwards: men should be repulsed by women trying to trap them by having their child. They've been broken up for 4 years, she doesn't have a right to be upset. I WANT to be sympathetic but it's eluding me.

Any advice?


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Here are some ideas, for starters

1) STOP TRYING TO BE "SYMPATHETIC"

2) WHY DO YOU CARE?

3) CUT IT OUT
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Old 04-28-2012, 05:44 PM
 
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He takes care of his child by leaving the child and then starting new families?

Right.

This line of b.s. would never fly if it were a woman who left her child and went and started a new family.

By the way, how is it you know all about the childish ex but now you say we can't possibly know about the fiance?
leaving his child?
he had a kid with someone that theyre both raising that's not leaving your child

we knows she's childish because of how she reacted to this news
if the op comes back and says he neglects his kid,doesnt pay child support etc then ill drastically change my opinion on him and she would be a fool for marrying him
but i'm not gonna bash him for doing nothing wrong

and the whole "would never fly if the woman left her child" nonsense
men in this country get bashed for being deadbeat dads and rightfully so
they belong in jail
there are also plenty of worthless mothers that ignore there children and pay no child support to the men that take care of them and nobody-not society or the legal system gives a **** so spare me the bull****
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Old 04-28-2012, 05:46 PM
 
Location: NYC
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It continually boggles my mind that there are actually women out there that think having an accidental pregnancy/baby will make their man want to stay with them forever and marry them. I really don't get it.
let me guess, no children ??

If a man truly loves his child, he'll always love the childs mother. And the reason is as simple as NO OTHER women would have been able to produce that child as they are today...
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Old 04-28-2012, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Throwing money at a kid and your baby momma does not = being a parent.
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Old 04-28-2012, 05:48 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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While I agree with you that this could just be the beginning of the drama (and one reason why she should have a LONG engagement), child support doesn't work like that.

No court is going to go after a new spouses income. They only assess the non-custodial parent based on what they alone earn (or should earn if they worked full time).
I'd still check with a lawyer to see how it might be handled in that particular state
Impacts of Remarriage on Child and Spousal Support - Attorneys.com

Even if a new spouse's income isn't included in child support, unless they work out the sharing of expenses a new spouse's income would help make up for what goes out from the supporting parent. That would be another thing I would suggest addressing before committing to a childed person (not that such a thing would ever happen to me. hell-to-the-no on that )
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Old 04-28-2012, 05:48 PM
 
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let me guess, no children ??

If a man truly loves his child, he'll always love the childs mother. And the reason is as simple as NO OTHER women would have been able to produce that child as they are today...

he'll love his child
the loving the woman forever part is comical at best
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Old 04-28-2012, 05:49 PM
 
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Throwing money at a kid and your baby momma does not = being a parent.
i agree completely
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Old 04-28-2012, 05:50 PM
 
Location: DFW
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If a man truly loves his child, he'll always love the child's mother. And the reason is as simple as NO OTHER women would have been able to produce that child as they are today...
Just because a woman gives birth to a mans child does that automatically entitle her to his "Love" the rest of her life. He may be grateful for the kid but have no feelings for the babies momma (or vice versa).
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Old 04-28-2012, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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I have not read everything, but do not get sucked in.
You need to maintain a cordial relationship with you husband to be's child's mother, since you will have a relationship with the child. He must be the person to coordinate this.
Be polite, but apart from the drama.
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Old 04-28-2012, 05:54 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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If she were just a random lay who got knocked up, why would she have had a lengthy convo with his Grandma? .....Baby Mama was talking to an ally.
She recruited a flying monkey. I suppose Grandma might have a fear that she'll be given less access to her g-grandchild since there's no chance now of her grandson marrying the girl, but she needs to be told to butt out.
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