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View Poll Results: Men: Would you date a woman who majored/minored in Feminist or Women's Studies?
Yes, no problem 15 41.67%
Eh, depends on whether or not she is attractive 5 13.89%
Nah, don't think I need the hassles 3 8.33%
No, and how fast can I run? 12 33.33%
Other - explain 1 2.78%
Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-28-2012, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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No, unless that's what you want to read into it. Society still adheres to traditional roles, for the most part, though people pay lip service to being "progressive." People who deviate from this "standard" limit the pool that is available to them. Kudos to your women's studies/T.A. male friend. He found a wife. Most women would be categorically disinterested in him. There's no denying that.
Nah, he's hot, smart, and talented. Finding women was never a problem. I was actually pretty surprised he ended up committing to just one. But she's very cool, too.

Anyhow, what say you tell me more about these "traditional roles..." I'm really actually pretty curious to know what your idea of the perfect feminine woman looks like.

 
Old 04-28-2012, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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So, in the end, the "quest" was tiring and she turned into Betty Crocker.
I see nothing wrong with that. My own Mother had zero aspirations beyond having a family and being a stay at home Mother, and she was fantastic at it. I see absolutely no issues with a woman who prefers being at home over working, but I also understand that not all women are the same and some may prefer a career over being at home.

Personally, at this point in my life I much prefer having a career and being in school and traveling and I don't necessarily want to be tied down to a marriage, children or a house. Perhaps later in my life I'll change my mind...or maybe I'll continue working on airplanes.

Isn't it great? Women are sentient creatures who have the ability to choose their own way!
 
Old 04-28-2012, 09:31 PM
 
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Well, I was wondering the same thing. You have the adage "it's just as easy to fall in love with a rich man as it is with a poor man" and then you have women on here who say they will "date and marry a man with an incurable STD." Isn't that pretty darn inconsistent?
No. Your take on it is irrational is all. Logic is not your friend.
 
Old 04-28-2012, 09:32 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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So, in the end, the "quest" was tiring and she turned into Betty Crocker.
See, robert, this is what I keep telling you: there are all kinds of feminists. Some work at a career, then choose to stay home, if that's financially feasible. Some raise the kids, then when the kids are in school, they take a job. There are so many permutations, human variety is infinite, and so are the types of women who are feminists. Really, your example proves my point. It's only because you can't get your mind around the fact that not all feminists match your cartoon, that you view Friedan's life as some sort of contradiction. It's not. Try to get that through your skull.
 
Old 04-28-2012, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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I see nothing wrong with that. My own Mother had zero aspirations beyond having a family and being a stay at home Mother, and she was fantastic at it. I see absolutely no issues with a woman who prefers being at home over working, but I also understand that not all women are the same and some may prefer a career over being at home.
Same. My mom, too, and she's the strongest, coolest, most independent woman I know. But her preference in life was ALWAYS to stay home and raise her children and manage the household. She did this, for a great many years. She had to go back to work at one point, for financial reasons, and never really has enjoyed it...now, as a grandparent, she wishes she were watching her grandkids, primarily, versus going in to work every day. Her aspirations were always, always, always primarily on the homefront. She was damned good at it, too, and I really admire that.
 
Old 04-28-2012, 09:34 PM
 
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Personally, at this point in my life I much prefer having a career and being in school and traveling and I don't necessarily want to be tied down to a marriage, children or a house. Perhaps later in my life I'll change my mind...or maybe I'll continue working on airplanes.
Yeah, how many women up in the air don't want to land a pilot, while joining the "Mile High Club?" Maybe at the hotel for the layover, rather than the lav?
 
Old 04-28-2012, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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Well, I was wondering the same thing. You have the adage "it's just as easy to fall in love with a rich man as it is with a poor man" and then you have women on here who say they will "date and marry a man with an incurable STD." Isn't that pretty darn inconsistent?

The only thing these two statements prove is that there really are ALL kinds of women in the world.

Why are all women supposed to be "consistent"??
 
Old 04-28-2012, 09:37 PM
 
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Yeah, how many women up in the air don't want to land a pilot, while joining the "Mile High Club?" Maybe at the hotel for the layover, rather than the lav?
Actually....not many women want to 'land' a pilot. They're notoriously arrogant, they cheat at ridiculously high numbers and are never home.

For a fling? Sure. For anything long-term? No. I've been in aviation for quite some time and the vast VAST majority of women in the industry want nothing to do with pilots.
 
Old 04-28-2012, 09:38 PM
 
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See, robert, this is what I keep telling you: there are all kinds of feminists. Some work at a career, then choose to stay home, if that's financially feasible. Some raise the kids, then when the kids are in school, they take a job. There are so many permutations, human variety is infinite, and so are the types of women who are feminists. Really, your example proves my point. It's only because you can't get your mind around the fact that not all feminists match your cartoon, that you view Friedan's life as some sort of contradiction. It's not. Try to get that through your skull.
And what I'm saying, and what others have said, is that such self-identification tends to deflate the third leg. Equality has been here for a long time. So have matriarchal families. In the New Millenium, identifying as a feminist is off-putting. That's why I posted the question per the OP. Heck, I even came up with a curriculum, but I doubt the women of CD Relationships would nominate me for the Dean's position.
 
Old 04-28-2012, 09:39 PM
 
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See, robert, this is what I keep telling you: there are all kinds of feminists. Some work at a career, then choose to stay home, if that's financially feasible. Some raise the kids, then when the kids are in school, they take a job. There are so many permutations, human variety is infinite, and so are the types of women who are feminists.

Really, your example proves my point. It's only because you can't get your mind around the fact that not all feminists match your cartoon, that you view Friedan's life as some sort of contradiction. It's not. Try to get that through your skull.
Remarkable that this even needs to be stated in this day and age
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