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Old 06-06-2012, 11:12 AM
 
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Man, it's just not our day, is it, 2M?

As I said, again, the man is the biggest offender. No question. But I think my point is a really simple one: How did so many women get conned by this guy, some of whom even having a couple of kids by the idiot? Can you please explain this to me without automatically making the guy, any guy, the heavy? In an age where women are empowered to make their reproductive choices, how did so many get snookered into getting pregnant with him? It's a simple question.
I dont deny there are alot of ignorant women out there. I cant say I know the reasons why some women put themselves in this position. Upbringing, low self esteam, illusions of love, pure ignorance, circumstance, IDK. They are guilty of their own transgressions. My point is this dosent make this particular guy any less guilty or to blame for creating 30 children. Men are also empowered to make their own reporductive choices. The question could be how did he get snookered into fathering so many children.
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Old 06-06-2012, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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The baby daddies dont get any money so why produce all those kids.
As I said earlier, among the more ignorant in our society is a common belief that "proof" of fertility (kids) is evidence of a man's worth and status.

For these guys the only thing they'll ever actually accomplish is impregnating woman.

It's a sad claim to fame that only the most ignorant dregs of society would value.
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Old 06-06-2012, 11:21 AM
 
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As I said earlier, among the more ignorant in our society is a common belief that "proof" of fertility (kids) is evidence of a man's worth and status.

For these guys the only thing they'll ever actually accomplish is impregnating woman.

It's a sad claim to fame that only the most ignorant dregs of society would value.
Yes, I guess theres that. Then they realize that worth is expected to be backed up by actually supporting thier kids and their status quickly becomes deadbeat dad.
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Old 06-06-2012, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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This guy and any guy who can't provide for their children need to be snipped. If it is a burden to us as tax payers screw them.

Same thing with the woman!

The other group that are experts at nursing off the tax payers are many of the Polygamist Mormons communities.
Not to be confused with members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, commonly called Mormons due to our beliefe in the Book of Mormon as well as the Bible. Members of the Mormon Church that even affiliate with Polygamist groups are not allowed to hold any position within the church and can not enter our Temples. Most of these groups are splinter groups that broke away decades ago when the Mormon church ended the practice.

On top of that a part of being Mormon is in not going to the government for help or a handout. We believe in being self reliant and when a problem does occur to go to our family for help and then if needed go to the church for help. We have our own welfare program. Unlike the governments in the Mormon Churches the recipients have to pay back the support given either thru time or money when they get back on their feet.
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:14 PM
 
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Actually no. How much money does one get per child from the gov.? I know my ex dil received FS and section 8 housing and day care assistance even with CS and her working. She is probably scamming the system tho.


The baby daddies dont get any money so why produce all those kids.

You'd be very surprised at the amounts. Here in FL is several hundred a month per kid PLUS section 8 housing PLUS food stamps.

I often asked myself why I do I bother working???
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:19 PM
 
Location: USA
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Not to be confused with members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, commonly called Mormons due to our beliefe in the Book of Mormon as well as the Bible. Members of the Mormon Church that even affiliate with Polygamist groups are not allowed to hold any position within the church and can not enter our Temples. Most of these groups are splinter groups that broke away decades ago when the Mormon church ended the practice.

On top of that a part of being Mormon is in not going to the government for help or a handout. We believe in being self reliant and when a problem does occur to go to our family for help and then if needed go to the church for help. We have our own welfare program. Unlike the governments in the Mormon Churches the recipients have to pay back the support given either thru time or money when they get back on their feet.
Of course, thats why I said Polygamist.

And the Morman example of self reliance is a good example that all should follow.

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You'd be very surprised at the amounts. Here in FL is several hundred a month per kid PLUS section 8 housing PLUS food stamps.

I often asked myself why I do I bother working???
Because you know you couldn't enjoy your lifestyle on what the Government provides. It's enough to eek by on but your not going to living what most consider a good life.
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Austin
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I cannot comment on this because CD would ban me for life
Yep, right there with ya. It's beyond heinous and almost renders me speechless.
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Well, hold on. Yeah, the guy's the bigger offender here. But, really? Scientists have figured out what causes pregnancy. And if you're having a session of humpalumpadingdong with a guy who has already fathered a couple of dozen kids by other women, then you need your head examined.
It absolutely takes both parties to make these things happen, yes. Everyone should be just as personally accountable, but that appears to be asking for too much, huh.
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