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And yet, following the transit authority's guidelines DOESN"T WORK! (Been there, done that.) Women still get groped, even when dressed modestly--imagine that! You still haven't addressed that fact.
The matter is in degrees, a woman dressed modestly is going to attract minimal attention opposed to a woman who is dressed in the most sexual provocative manner that she can.
I agree, modest women are still attacked, but good honest people who lock all their doors at night are still robbed.
The point is, you can't stop all crime, but you can REDUCE your chances of being a victim.
And they still have less crimes towards women then America.
That's because Japan is a homogenous society and strict about it. They don't have the same challenges we have in the US and other western nations. To start, Japan does not have a welfare system. They are not liberal. The crime element, the lazy, the crap we have in the US wouldn't fair well over there at all.
And appropriate for what? Going out dancing? Work at a large corporation? And who's definition of appropriate? Your definition is definitely not the norm, so we ain't going with yours.
The Japan subway system was famous for awhile for rapes. Not of provocatively dressed women, just any women wearing a skirt. The guys would pull them up, stick it in, and that was that. Because of the culture, the women were to ashamed to do anything but stand there.
I guess they thought like you... if you're wearing a skirt, you're asking for it.
Sometimes I feel like I should just walk around in Hammerpants and a big sweatshirt.
Of course, then I'll be 'letting myself go' and guys will probably think I'm easy because of that.
Basically, there's no winning. Maybe Burqas aren't such a bad idea. Of course, then men will probably be MORE enticed because they are curious about what's underneath.
You think my position is irrational, and I think your position is delusional. I'm really trying to see your point of view but I just can't.
It makes no sense, a woman dressing sexy and not expecting that it will entice men (some of them unruly) is like putting honey on your body and not expecting to attract any insects.
You appear to have missed my point, or maybe conflated it with someone else's post. My point is that it's out of touch with reality to think that dressing modestly will magically end groping in crowded conditions. The fact is that it doesn't. So...what else ya got?
And don't forget, dressing "sexy" does not entice men to commit a violent crime in European countries. And you just said that there's less crime against women in Japan, as well, in spite of some women wearing stylishly short office attire. So we seem to be back at Square One. Why don't American men just take responsibility for their own behavior? Wouldn't that be something!
The Japan subway system was famous for awhile for rapes. Not of provocatively dressed women, just any women wearing a skirt. The guys would pull them up, stick it in, and that was that.
So THIS is where that scene came from! There was an episode of CSI: Special Victims' Unit, back when the series was fairly new, that was based on an incident just like this, but set in NYC's subway system. I thought it was gross that rape was being used as TV entertainment. A rape a week to keep viewers happy. Thanks for mentioning this, Mikala.
Notice, Cali, the women were not all wearing short skirts, they were just wearing regular business attire, probably skirt-suits and dresses.
And btw, how would you know there's less crime against women in Japan? Mikala just said that subway rapes went through a popular phase for awhile. Doesn't sound like less crime to me.
So THIS is where that scene came from! There was an episode of CSI: Special Victims' Unit, back when the series was fairly new, that was based on an incident just like this, but set in NYC's subway system. I thought it was gross that rape was being used as TV entertainment. A rape a week to keep viewers happy. Thanks for mentioning this, Mikala.
Notice, Cali, the women were not all wearing short skirts, they were just wearing regular business attire, probably skirt-suits and dresses.
And btw, how would you know there's less crime against women in Japan? Mikala just said that subway rapes went through a popular phase for awhile. Doesn't sound like less crime to me.
He won't address it and that's because it doesn't matter to him why women are raped because it doesn't matter to him that women are raped at all.
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