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Old 08-15-2012, 06:03 AM
 
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All the woman I see online or know personally that have great careers and are making BREAD aren't going to date men that aren't at least on their level financially.(and preferably above it) i think thats why alot are single. They flat out refuse to, and if that's their choice, go for it. The problem is the higher you get up the corporate ladder they less men you'll find who will

A. Fit that standard
B. Are actually physically attracted to you/vice versa
C. Want to settle down

The guys I know in this situation(on/off line) don't have this situation because they don't have the same standards on this issue
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Old 08-15-2012, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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Face it, a woman wants to marry someone with similar or higher status than she has. This can enhance or raise her status level. In a sense, every woman wants a "trophy". If she marries someone who has a lower status, its like saying "'This is the best I could do", and so my guess in her eyes, it lowers her status. Most women can't handle this, and so they don't. For men its not as big an issue. They frequently do marry someone below or even way below their status level, and its OK. The only time it would probably lower his status level is if he married someone who wasn't particularly attractive.
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Old 08-15-2012, 06:33 AM
 
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Many American women bought into the idea that with financial independence, they didn't "need" a permanent relationship with a man. By the time they were old enough to know better it was often too late.
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Old 08-15-2012, 06:36 AM
 
Location: New Zealand and Australia
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The bigger issue is you have 95% of women chasing 5-10% of the men and 95% of men chasing 5-10% of the women.

There have been a number of factors that have brought this about. Media for women and porn for men being two of the main one's.
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Old 08-15-2012, 06:41 AM
 
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Face it, a woman wants to marry someone with similar or higher status than she has. This can enhance or raise her status level. In a sense, every woman wants a "trophy". If she marries someone who has a lower status, its like saying "'This is the best I could do", and so my guess in her eyes, it lowers her status. Most women can't handle this, and so they don't. For men its not as big an issue. They frequently do marry someone below or even way below their status level, and its OK. The only time it would probably lower his status level is if he married someone who wasn't particularly attractive.

And this is why men are constantly complaining and crying foul about getting taken to the cleaners, losing half THEIR stuff, paying alimony and child support when divorce occurs. We hear it over and over and over again.

Perhaps women take this into consideration and dont want to spend their best years supporting a man or carrying the greatest percentage of financial burden while also being the one to do the lions share of domestic duties and child rearing to lose it in divorce.

If guys are so ok with having a partner that you know will always need to be taken care of financially because they are way below your financial/educational status level why do guys protest so much when they actually have to continue to take care of them financially?
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Old 08-15-2012, 06:52 AM
 
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Face it, a woman wants to marry someone with similar or higher status than she has. This can enhance or raise her status level. In a sense, every woman wants a "trophy". If she marries someone who has a lower status, its like saying "'This is the best I could do", and so my guess in her eyes, it lowers her status. Most women can't handle this, and so they don't. For men its not as big an issue. They frequently do marry someone below or even way below their status level, and its OK. The only time it would probably lower his status level is if he married someone who wasn't particularly attractive.

The reason Men are more likely to "date down" than women is due to fact that economics bears a far lower weight on their needs than it does with women.
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Old 08-15-2012, 06:57 AM
 
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Face it, a woman wants to marry someone with similar or higher status than she has. This can enhance or raise her status level. In a sense, every woman wants a "trophy". If she marries someone who has a lower status, its like saying "'This is the best I could do", and so my guess in her eyes, it lowers her status. Most women can't handle this, and so they don't. For men its not as big an issue. They frequently do marry someone below or even way below their status level, and its OK. The only time it would probably lower his status level is if he married someone who wasn't particularly attractive.
I've known women that have married men that have married men that earn less than they do. I think for women that are high earners and have demanding careers some are looking for a man that is willing to do a bit of a role reversal as far as family responsibilities. Most high earning men expect that they'll have little responsibilities at home whether their wife works or not. Why wouldn't a woman who earns quite a bit expect the same.

I believe that over time you'll see more women marrying men who earn less. I don't think you can talk about the women earning more issue without talking about men changing their behavior in this equation though.
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Old 08-15-2012, 07:26 AM
 
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I've known women that have married men that have married men that earn less than they do. I think for women that are high earners and have demanding careers some are looking for a man that is willing to do a bit of a role reversal as far as family responsibilities. Most high earning men expect that they'll have little responsibilities at home whether their wife works or not. Why wouldn't a woman who earns quite a bit expect the same.

I believe that over time you'll see more women marrying men who earn less. I don't think you can talk about the women earning more issue without talking about men changing their behavior in this equation though.

^^^^This is still in transistion and men are having a hard time accepting that they should step up to the responsibility of taking care of the home and kids when they have an equal or higher earning wife. Women will choose to stay single if they must take on both responsibilities. I mean what the heck do you need a husband for if you have to be cook, maid, nanny and breadwinner.
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Old 08-15-2012, 07:33 AM
 
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^^^^This is still in transistion and men are having a hard time accepting that they should step up to the responsibility of taking care of the home and kids when they have an equal or higher earning wife. Women will choose to stay single if they must take on both responsibilities. I mean what the heck do you need a husband for if you have to be cook, maid, nanny and breadwinner.
Why would men

A. "Have a hard time accepting" this
B. Be angry at all

This will never affect the vast majority of men's dating life
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Old 08-15-2012, 07:34 AM
 
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Certainly, both sexes have their share of fault.

However, despite what the women say on here, most guys are fairly realistic about their prospects. They may want a bombshell when under 20, but soon enough, they will realize that they have no chance whatsoever and set their sights lower. When they get to that point, what they are looking for is someone who has it together. Unfortunately, there are not a lot of women who qualify.

In contrast, a majority of women have an easy time attracting the temporary interest of hot guys. They can offer sex and many desirable men will feint interest to get this. Even one such experience will delay a woman's interest in constructive settling for 2 years. Those who do a lot of this are likely to suddenly find they are 37 and afraid that their time to have a family is running out. Few can then find the average, decent men, with prospects, anymore.
Want a bombshell under 20? Try under 30
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