What do people have against the PUA industry? (different, interested, personal)
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Can someone please answer my question? And I've been asking this since page one
2 parts
A. If its helping some(maybe not all) men gain confidence and get better at communicating with the opposite that will lead him to be more successful with women... What's wrong with that? Why do you care?
B. For guys only, if its not "working"(and that's arguable) with women you don't want anything to do with(I've seen some people say "studious" women lol) again why do you care?
It doesn't make sense to me unless your
A. Flat out Hating or B. have some stake in this
Right, so only two extremes exist: guys who are sleazes or wimps beefed up with fake lines, and guys who go around groveling to women. It's all black-and-white, no grey. What's the difference, btw, between wimps who learn fake lines to charm as many women as possible into bed, and "doormats" who go around trying to "appease as many women as one can"?
I don't see a difference.
Well, you do know what they say: 'nice guys' really are aholes in disguise. They really are one and the same.
I like being neither. The world is a much better place with color rather than stark black and white only.
Right, so only two extremes exist: guys who are sleazes or wimps beefed up with fake lines, and guys who go around groveling to women. It's all black-and-white, no grey. What's the difference, btw, between wimps who learn fake lines to charm as many women as possible into bed, and "doormats" who go around trying to "appease as many women as one can"?
I don't see a difference.
One type gets laid and the other doesnt. Women have fun and enjoy being around the former, while being repulsed and absolutely dread being around the latter. Thats about it.
Remember, im not in favor of lying, manipulating, creating stories or using one liners, because none of that is truly necessary.
rabb, the bozos don't go near libraries. Their PUA lines work probably because they hang out with the party crowd, where the women are already prepped with alcohol.
See this is a form of hating Lol. Especially the last line
I don't know, but I think because of the PUA industry, I am getting a lot more blatant come-ons. It is weird what some men are doing these days. It makes you wonder whatever happened to going on the date before getting a kiss.
I see no 'hating' in the statement. It is what it is... and it's accurate.
When she says prepped with alcohol she's implying discretely that they could only be successful with those women(along with PUA methods)if they were under the influence.(no evidence of this)
niceness and sensitivity are both feminine traits, so unless youre looking for a lesbian, it isnt getting anyone anywhere. All men start out nice, as babies - the way nature intended them to be from the get go. All masculine traits are there, but over the years they are lost and replaced with feminine traits like over sensitivity, being indirect, too emotional etc etc. Its different inhibitions andsocial conditioning that leads to it and there are great reasons for it that benefit our civilization as a whole. Truth is, every man already posesses everything needed to be extremely succesful with the opposite sex, but he must see the barriers and walls built around him for his entire life and be able to break through them. Living in denial and not being able to see the truth, is a great way to live a lonely life, however.
Not to go OT, but I politely disagree with the above assumptions, regarding the inherent nature of masculinity -- IMO, it's all social engineering anyway, designed to breed a specific "type" of male and masculinity, and intentionally inhibit other masculine variations. I have a whole thread on this here.
IMO, compassion, niceness, and sensitivity are "human" traits, not just a "feminine" trait. The same with the ability to show mercy, show tenderness, show forgiveness, be loving and kind toward others, and to ability to truly care about our fellow human beings.
ETA: How many wars and how much human suffering could have been prevented, in human history, if men had been kinder and more gentle, towards each other?
Last edited by Phoenix2017; 08-13-2012 at 04:00 PM..
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When she says prepped with alcohol she's implying discretely that they could only be successful with those women(along with PUA methods)if they were under the influence
That's hating.
Not hating. Accuracy.
And you know damn well alcohol (and drugs) change the game entirely so don't try and play this one off. We are not stupid.
Not to go OT, but I politely disagree withe the above assumptions, regarding the inherent nature of masculinity -- IMO, it's all social engineering anyway, designed to breed a specific "type" of male and masculinity, and intentionally inhibit other maculine variations. I have a whole thread on this here.
We can agree to disagree, but if you observe real life situations, you will see that women indeed are attracted to masculine traits, and masculine guys are the guys who get the ladies. But there is a difference between observing and listening.
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The world is a much better place with color rather than stark black and white only.
