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Old 09-11-2012, 11:09 AM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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From one perspective, since many guys are goal oriented, why do you believe they would rather forgo what works more often over what works less often? So, why do you believe many guys are willing to resort to lies, ceteris paribus, if they don't get laid as often merely by being moral enough to bear true witness for what they want with some women?
Fortunately for women who do not appreciate being lied to or used like a box of tissues, there is a large group of men who do neither because they don't have to.
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:14 AM
 
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Sometimes I head out to bars with a few buddies and we invent stories to get girls in bed.

One of the best fables to tell is that you are a record producer - this usually does the trick.

being an accountant or banker also works quite well, though is harder to pull off as you do actually need some financial knowledge.

now, is there anything wrong in doing this?

whoaaa!!.. you're mad...
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:22 AM
 
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So wait... Has this actually worked?
'Cause I'm always looking for a relationship, but damned I have needs, and the fact of the matter is women who go to bars then sleep with a guy are doing so because they just want to sleep with a guy, that's all, so I'm not buying any claims of immorality on this when the whole interaction in the first place is fleeting and short.
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:25 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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Fortunately for women who do not appreciate being lied to or used like a box of tissues, there is a large group of men who do neither because they don't have to.
Maybe I am doing something wrong, but usually, I can only be honest for short term relationships with women that involve sex on the first date, when I have enough money.

Many women also still complain they can't find nice guys who, presumably, aren't willing to lie as much.

You are welcome to help me out whenever you want.
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:38 PM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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Maybe I am doing something wrong, but usually, I can only be honest for short term relationships with women that involve sex on the first date, when I have enough money.

Many women also still complain they can't find nice guys who, presumably, aren't willing to lie as much.

You are welcome to help me out whenever you want.
I think you probably are doing something wrong. Is that the help you are looking for?

If a woman complains about not being able to find a nice guy, I stop listening. I am not interested in guys who call themselves that, so I don't have anything to contribute.
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Old 09-11-2012, 01:24 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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It isn't really the help I am looking for, but then again, I still don't have much money.
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Old 09-11-2012, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Lehighton/Jim Thorpe area
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Sometimes I head out to bars with a few buddies and we invent stories to get girls in bed.

One of the best fables to tell is that you are a record producer - this usually does the trick.

being an accountant or banker also works quite well, though is harder to pull off as you do actually need some financial knowledge.

now, is there anything wrong in doing this?

So in some threads you are an ugly virgin and in others you are a misogynist player.

Hint: when the lying becomes so pathological that you can't even keep up your story on a message board, it's time to seek help.
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Old 09-11-2012, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Fortunately for women who do not appreciate being lied to or used like a box of tissues, there is a large group of men who do neither because they don't have to.
Yes..There are men out there with some class. I just don't understand how a man can live with himself or perform a sexual act knowing that he had deceived his partner in order to take some sort of sick control.

Most people feel badly when they lie...That's normal..Those who have no conscience are creeps. Would these guys lie also if they had an STD? Probably.
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Old 09-11-2012, 01:36 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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Dude, you have got to be kidding, right? We have a McCarthy era phrase in our pledge of allegiance and no anti-hypocrisy laws on the books. How many politicians have ever run on platform of bearing true witness to our own laws, simply for the sake of morals and that form of moral absolutism in modern times, and got themselves elected.
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Old 09-11-2012, 01:56 PM
 
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Sometimes I head out to bars with a few buddies and we invent stories to get girls in bed.

One of the best fables to tell is that you are a record producer - this usually does the trick.

being an accountant or banker also works quite well, though is harder to pull off as you do actually need some financial knowledge.

now, is there anything wrong in doing this?
"I'm a record producer"? Dude you must be pulling the 0's and 1's because no mildly attractive, half-brain intelligent girl would ever fall for that cr*p. "I'm an accountant"? This must be a joke or something right. You need some financial knowledge? You would actually talk about "financial knowledge" with a girl at a bar? You need serious help guy.

Honestly what you're doing sounds utterly pathetic. I love seeing guys like you at the bar talking to what looks like a decent, nice girl, so I can walk right up and take her away from you and save her from this deceit and misery.

Any people on here want to question if PUA has benefits? Here's one for you: I use it to save girls from creeps like this guy.
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