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Old 09-27-2012, 12:27 AM
 
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I politely and respectfully disagree...in MHO, that can be a very cruel and unforgiving fate, to the otherwise unempowered or disadvantaged. Especially with the advent of modern medicine that can treat and otherwise ameliorate many previously unresolvable medical conditions, the viewpoint presented above can be potentially be quite uncharitable. Modern society has ample room for basic human compassion and flexibility here, without needing to apply Darwinian principles any longer. Again with the advantage of modern medical advances, for human beings, there is no rational reason why someone should be intentionally blacklisted from reproducing. Otherwise, what you have is essentially eugenics, at least for human beings...and eugenics, IMO, is twisted, inhuman, brutal, and evil.
Interestingly I thought what you have is essentially people choosing who they want to have sex with rather than be seen as cattle obligated to f*ck someone so that someone reproduces.

Not everyone gets a partner that's not twisted, inhuman, brutal, and evil in my opinion and seems more applicable on the implication of obligating others to f*ck someone so that someone reproduces and using emotional ploys like basic human compassion.
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:39 PM
 
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deserve yes, owed or right to one? nope, especially guys
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:14 PM
 
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Interestingly I thought what you have is essentially people choosing who they want to have sex with rather than be seen as cattle obligated to f*ck someone so that someone reproduces.

Not everyone gets a partner that's not twisted, inhuman, brutal, and evil in my opinion and seems more applicable on the implication of obligating others to f*ck someone so that someone reproduces and using emotional ploys like basic human compassion.
In my previous posts in this thread, I certainly didn't mean that people should be treated like cattle, or broodmares. No one should ever have to be forced to be intimate with someone against their will.

At the same time, targeting a specific person or group of people and arbitrarily declaring that s/he is fundamentally unworthy or singled out for denial of the right to reproduce (with a willing partner of course), is uncompassionate and inhuman. Don't forget that in the past, certain groups of people unfairly and unjustly seen as "undesirables" or "unworthy" by others were intentionally targeted for involuntary, forced sterilization, done against their will. This is one type of eugenics. This is also one example of the kind of cruel, brutal, and evil context I was talking about -- please do not try to take my words out of context.

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Old 09-28-2012, 10:42 AM
 
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Interestingly I thought what you have is essentially people choosing who they want to have sex with rather than be seen as cattle obligated to f*ck someone so that someone reproduces.

Not everyone gets a partner that's not twisted, inhuman, brutal, and evil in my opinion and seems more applicable on the implication of obligating others to f*ck someone so that someone reproduces and using emotional ploys like basic human compassion.
The human race as a whole has declined in quality because people believe everyone should reproduce.
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:37 AM
 
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My humble opinion:
NO!
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Old 09-28-2012, 05:21 PM
 
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yeah, in fact, i read that these species of animals, such as the Mallard Duck, on average, only 3 out of 100 Male Mallards get laid, and i heard something that like 90 percent of Male Sea Lions never get laid, goes to show that dating is a much higher competition for men than for women
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Old 09-29-2012, 08:07 AM
 
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No. That's absurd.
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Old 10-02-2012, 06:39 PM
 
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glad to see this thread is still going.

I'll read through it when I get a chance
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