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I don't have a problem. I'm trying to figure out why Kenneth here is linking these two things together.
Pre-marital sex and co-habitation before marriage are two completely different topics. His argument seems to be that if you don't live with someone, you can't have sex with them and you won't know if you are sexually compatible.
why would you be ok with pre-marital sex but not with living together?
why would you be ok with pre-marital sex but not with living together?
what is the logic in that?
I don't like to share my space with others. If I'm married it's obviously a compromise I'm willing to make because I love that person and want them in my life. If I wasn't married, I wouldn't even entertain the thought of living with someone (be it family, a roommate or a boyfriend). It's just not something I would want or see as necessary.
That doesn't mean I wouldn't want a sex life though.
so what you are saying then is that this piece of paper, aka marriage certificate, makes you love someone more - so much so in fact that you are prepared to share your space with then?
so what you are saying then is that this piece of paper, aka marriage certificate, makes you love someone more - so much so in fact that you are prepared to share your space with then?
no offense intended, but that is just nonsense.
No, I didn't say a marriage certificate made me love him more. I loved him which is why I wanted to marry him and why I was/am willing to share my space with him.
If I didn't love someone enough to marry them, I wouldn't want to live with them either.
We didn't live together before getting married. It had nothing to do with sex, believe it or not. I just saw no good that could come of it, but a big glaring negative (in the form of a break up) could.
We had decided to get married. We knew each other inside and out, backwards and forwards. We knew we agreed on all the major stuff--religion, family, careers, money, etc. What was their to learn from living together, then? That he prefers to spend his off days by not getting dressed until lunch time? That I sometimes leave damp towels on the bed? If those were things that were going to cause us to break up, then we shouldn't have been engaged in the first place. And if those things weren't going to break us up, then why did we need to discover them before the wedding?
Bottom line, I didn't want to discover a reason to break up. I wanted to marry him. He wanted to marry me. We are now legally bound, and since we believe marriage is for life...we are forced to work through all the little things and not accept the daily annoyances as an excuse to call it quits.
It worked for us I will add that we were married young (22/23, just a year after college graduation), and we both came from families with rock solid marriages as examples for us. I can't say what I would have done if those variables were different, but I can say that nearly 5 years later we're still going strong
so what you are saying then is that this piece of paper, aka marriage certificate, makes you love someone more - so much so in fact that you are prepared to share your space with then?
no offense intended, but that is just nonsense.
Ah. So anyone that doesn't agree with you, is just thinking nonsense then. Right.
I expect that religious people marry for pretty much the same reasons that non-religious people do - love.
And I don't know why you think that religious folks are the ones that get married right out of high school. You have an awful lot of misconceptions.
At Brigham Young, more of the Mormon kids than not end up married before finishing college. I didn't say they don't love each other but they get married younger so they can have guilt free sex unlike normal people, who just go out and have sex when they're both ready. The highest divorce rates are in religious states like Oklahoma and Arkansas while the lowest in liberal states like Massachusetts, religious people getting married because they believe they need to is a clear factor in dysfunctional marriages that end up requiring divorce.
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