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Old 09-25-2012, 01:54 PM
 
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Doing the approaching, starting conversations, flirting, small-talk, asking out, overall, initiating the steps in order to land a date and relationship, pursuing, chasing, etc.?

People always argue, say this all the time but they never bother to explain specifically why, they always say "Because your a Man, thats part of being a Man", seriously, why is it the way it is? where is the logic in it? Is it Biology, Evolution, in DNA, Genetics, as to why men the overwhelming vast majority of the time have to be the one to do the initiating? or is it a Social Construct, Society-Thing, Culture-Thing?

Why is taking charge, taking control, going after what you want and making things happen part of being Masculine, part of being a Man? who or what made that rule, standard, expectation?
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:00 PM
 
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Doing the approaching, starting conversations, flirting, small-talk, asking out, overall, initiating the steps in order to land a date and relationship, pursuing, chasing, etc.?

People always argue, say this all the time but they never bother to explain specifically why, they always say "Because your a Man, thats part of being a Man", seriously, why is it the way it is? where is the logic in it? Is it Biology, Evolution, in DNA, Genetics, as to why men the overwhelming vast majority of the time have to be the one to do the initiating? or is it a Social Construct, Society-Thing, Culture-Thing?

Why is taking charge, taking control, going after what you want and making things happen part of being Masculine, part of being a Man? who or what made that rule, standard, expectation?
I don't know who you're hanging around with, but I make the first move whenever I'm interested.
Sometimes I'm successful, sometimes I get turned down.

Who is forcing you to do anything?
And why do it if you're simply resentful, women pick up on that.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:04 PM
 
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People always argue, say this all the time but they never bother to explain specifically why, they always say "Because your a Man, thats part of being a Man", seriously, why is it the way it is? where is the logic in it? Is it Biology, Evolution, in DNA, Genetics, as to why men the overwhelming vast majority of the time have to be the one to do the initiating?
Biology, take the class.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:06 PM
 
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You don't see lionesses hitting on the lions.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:09 PM
 
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Not this topic, again! It depend on how you define "first move". Women do a LOT of first-move-making. Approaching, flirting, or chatting, smiling, sometimes even asking the guy out. I saw a news magazine report, something like 60-Minutes years ago, where they asked quite a few couples who had made the first move, who had gotten the ball rolling, the man or the woman (these were married couples). Everyone admitted the woman gave out the first signals. And if those signals weren't noticed, they persisted, and upped the ante until the guy got the message. "Upping the ante" sometimes included being the first to ask the other out.

Really, this thing about "You have to make the first move because you're the man" sounds like something guys' mothers tell them. Real life isn't always like that. Life is a mixed bag.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:10 PM
 
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You don't see lionesses hitting on the lions.
No, but it's the lioness who is the hunter. She's the one who brings home the meat, and if you don't think that would attract a hungry lion's attention--a lioness with good hunting skills--you might want to rethink the whole thing.

The way to a lion's heart is through his stomach.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:15 PM
 
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You don't see lionesses hitting on the lions.
Oh good, now we're in the wild.
Do you really want women to be passive.
That's a great relationship in the making.
Real great.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:22 PM
 
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Oh good, now we're in the wild.
Well, yesterday, some guy used the cattle analogy in relation to feminism, or something, and likened women to cows. So at least Y-J didn't stoop that low. I don't mind lioness so much; they're smart, sleek and athletic, as well as being nurturing of their young. Not bad, not bad at all.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:23 PM
 
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Oh good, now we're in the wild.
Do you really want women to be passive.
That's a great relationship in the making.
Real great.
I never said I did. I just didn't notice if lionesses did that.

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No, but it's the lioness who is the hunter. She's the one who brings home the meat, and if you don't think that would attract a hungry lion's attention--a lioness with good hunting skills--you might want to rethink the whole thing.

The way to a lion's heart is through his stomach.
My partner knows the way to my heart is to be quiet when I'm doing something. She still disregards it. Also I would never refer to any woman as a cow. Perhaps a female parent, a Moo.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:29 PM
 
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My partner knows the way to my heart is to be quiet when I'm doing something. She still disregards it. Also I would never refer to any woman as a cow. Perhaps a female parent, a Moo.
Well, I was only speaking about lions (and lionesses). Personally, I think the way to a man's heart is through a completely different part of his anatomy (what's the stomach got to do with it?), but...that's just me, I guess.
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