For those of you ladies who think men complain too much (dates, husband)
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Part of me wants to give you a hug and part of me has to ask you a very difficult question. Do you think it's you or all of the women through out your life that are at fault? I'm not trying to be mean here but I think you need to discover what you're doing to drive people away. What were some of the reasons your past girlfriends gave for dumping you if you don't mind sharing? I feel very bad for you but you may be your own worst enemy.
Thanks for the thoughtful response. Clearly there is something wrong with me, if i am continuing to drive people away. It sucks... it's definitely a blow to the self-esteem after awhile.
Thanks for the thoughtful response. Clearly there is something wrong with me, if i am continuing to drive people away. It sucks... it's definitely a blow to the self-esteem after awhile.
No different than the blows to the self-esteem you likely give to some women with your threads and posts portraying women as some malevolent force to downtrodden poor men who cater hand and foot to them.
Perhaps what's 'wrong' with you is responding to rejection with disrespect, distrust, and such possibly it'll help to have better coping methods with rejection. People get rejected and in the romantic/sexual sense women aren't objects to be handed over because you were nice nor are they obligated to dole you out sex and relationships. Likely if you can't handle rejection well you'll continue on this spiral.
Have you looked into the escorts, prostitutes, foreign women, or mail order bride options?
No different than the blows to the self-esteem you likely give to some women with your threads and posts portraying women as some malevolent force to downtrodden poor men who cater hand and foot to them.
Perhaps what's 'wrong' with you is responding to rejection with disrespect, distrust, and such possibly it'll help to have better coping methods with rejection. People get rejected and in the romantic/sexual sense women aren't objects to be handed over because you were nice nor are they obligated to dole you out sex and relationships. Likely if you can't handle rejection well you'll continue on this spiral.
Have you looked into the escorts, prostitutes, foreign women, or mail order bride options?
Judging from the level of arrogance i see in the female population, i think it's pretty safe to say that nobody is suffering any self esteem blows as a result of my posts.
And yes, i actually did parooze some sites for mail order brides. I don't know. It's definitely not the same as getting to know a woman and having a relationship based on mutual attraction and friendship. It's certainly not ideal, but then again i don't seem to be getting what i want going about things the traditional and conventional way. I'll have to think more about it.
Judging from the level of arrogance i see in the female population, i think it's pretty safe to say that nobody is suffering any self esteem blows as a result of my posts.
And yes, i actually did parooze some sites for mail order brides. I don't know. It's definitely not the same as getting to know a woman and having a relationship based on mutual attraction and friendship. It's certainly not ideal, but then again i don't seem to be getting what i want going about things the traditional and conventional way. I'll have to think more about it.
See - when you say stuff like that - how do expect people to react to you? You want us to help you. You seem to want our pity. And yet you totally insult women at every turn. Do you not see this? If you really want to get over your bitterness - stop lashing out and insulting women. The only person it's hurting is you.
And honestly - you have no idea about the levels of self esteem of other people. Are you trying to hurt others? Will that make you feel better about yourself? I mean - some of us are actually trying to help you but it's kind of hard when you sound like a jerk so much of the time. Can you not see that?
Judging from the level of arrogance i see in the female population, i think it's pretty safe to say that nobody is suffering any self esteem blows as a result of my posts.
And yes, i actually did parooze some sites for mail order brides. I don't know. It's definitely not the same as getting to know a woman and having a relationship based on mutual attraction and friendship. It's certainly not ideal, but then again i don't seem to be getting what i want going about things the traditional and conventional way. I'll have to think more about it.
Wow, you've been busy! You know, if I let posts on here bug me, yours might be at the top. I think the reason is because you are making YOUR rejection about them. YOU give women too much power. I do think it's important when talking with your therapist to maybe get at the root of that.
You're a funny guy...sometimes you say things that are downright off-putting...but underneath, it seems you really just want understanding and kindness...you seem to be thoughtful enough to have some personal growth but then you also fall right back into giving women this power.
By doing so, you make it their fault. Oh my gosh, this is similar for when I get mad at a certain family member. My dad will say, YOU are letting her push your buttons by reacting to it...YOU have control what your response is...he's so right even if it's annoying. It's annoying because this person doesn't give a whip about me and yet I get so angry. One thing that's different is, I don't go around and say all women are awful...I just say, this person is awful and maybe watch out for similar traits in others so as not to be burned.
Does this make sense? I really think you might be in this cocoon of anger and crap and you just need to break free. I seriously believe once you let that go, some wonderful woman will be there...waiting to see what great things you have to offer. Maybe I'm too optimistic, but doesn't that sound nice?
Judging from the level of arrogance i see in the female population, i think it's pretty safe to say that nobody is suffering any self esteem blows as a result of my posts.
And yes, i actually did parooze some sites for mail order brides. I don't know. It's definitely not the same as getting to know a woman and having a relationship based on mutual attraction and friendship. It's certainly not ideal, but then again i don't seem to be getting what i want going about things the traditional and conventional way. I'll have to think more about it.
I do think it's safe to say that some guys are suffering self esteem blows as a result of your posts as my gal pals got a kick out of harshly rejecting a guy on behalf to your posts.
Perhaps it's suited to act rather than think about it as I doubt you're currently capable of getting to know a woman and have a relationship based on mutual attraction and friendship considering your posts about women and statements like 'judging from the level of arrogance I see in the female population'. It seems you don't have the attractiveness, status, wealth, or personality to bypass such a mindset about women and your attempts to cultivate such traits have turned up fruitless.
See - when you say stuff like that - how do expect people to react to you? You want us to help you. You seem to want our pity. And yet you totally insult women at every turn. Do you not see this? If you really want to get over your bitterness - stop lashing out and insulting women. The only person it's hurting is you.
And honestly - you have no idea about the levels of self esteem of other people. Are you trying to hurt others? Will that make you feel better about yourself? I mean - some of us are actually trying to help you but it's kind of hard when you sound like a jerk so much of the time. Can you not see that?
Possibly he wants to be told his mindset is correct, his distrust and such of women is justified, and to be coddled and seen as the poor victim. I know many guys with the same or similar mindset as him who want to be sympathized, empathized, and coddled with by gals as the poor downtrodden victims while they tell gals what horrible evil golddigging sluts and Amerc*nts they are.
Like i haven't heard that advice and criticism 1,000 times before. It always looks so easy to make changes when you are the person on the outside looking in. It must be nice to be right all the time and just know the answers to everything.
The whole point of this thread is that i have been TRYING to do something about it for years, but it's not working. But whatever, just keep kicking me when i'm down if that's how you get your fun for the day.
I really have to find a new hobby other than posting on this forum. Too many condescending people who lack compassion.
THIS.
See it?
A thousand times before.
That means you've whinged or complained about the same thing, one thousand times.
What does that tell you about how much fun you are to be around? About how over focused you are on your own misery?
As for everyone else "kicking you when you're down"...maybe they figure you secretly enjoy it. You certainly seem to post enough threads about it.
Possibly he wants to be told his mindset is correct, his distrust and such of women is justified, and to be coddled and seen as the poor victim. I know many guys with the same or similar mindset as him who want to be sympathized, empathized, and coddled with by gals as the poor downtrodden victims while they tell gals what horrible evil golddigging sluts and Amerc*nts they are.
Yes... i'll admit to wanting some of these things... but i think what i really want is for a woman to prove me wrong. I want to find out that hey, wow, there really ARE some wonderful women in the world, and that they actually WANT to be with me for a change. That would be nice.
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Part of me wants to give you a hug and part of me has to ask you a very difficult question. Do you think it's you or all of the women through out your life that are at fault? I'm not trying to be mean here but I think you need to discover what you're doing to drive people away. What were some of the reasons your past girlfriends gave for dumping you if you don't mind sharing? I feel very bad for you but you may be your own worst enemy.
