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Old 10-27-2012, 10:43 AM
 
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See that's the thing.Bisexual men will be more likelyy to fully commit to a relationship with another man, and the chances of that bi man cheating are slim to none.But with a woman, that a different story because, she does not have a penis,or is a man.I have read many stories from women stating they caught their men viewing gay porn, or looking hookups with men,or trannies.How in the world can a woman compete with a dick?It seems like man, or a tranny is the perfect match for these so called bisexual men.

I was married (faithfully) to a woman for 5 years (together for 10). It was she who wanted a divorce for various reasons. I wanted to stay married. Your first assumption is incorrect.

I do not love penises. I don't find them a particularly attractive (or unattractive) part of the male anatomy. My favorite parts of a man's body are usually his calves, butt, chest, and face. Oddly, those are also my favorite features of a woman's body as different as they look. All of the bisexual men I know (myself included) have no sexual interest in cross-dressers or transgendered people. Your second assumption is incorrect.

There are closeted gay men who lead a fake hetero-life. These are the stories you hear about. It's rare that women with openly (doesn't mean they have sex with men while with a woman, open means they are honest about their sexual attractions) bisexual men experience such deceptions. You confuse them with bisexual men. Plenty of people view porn while in relationships, catching your bi boyfriend viewing gay porn doesn't mean you aren't satisfying him, just like catching your hetero man watching st8 porn doesn't mean you aren't satisfying him. I know many women are insecure about porn, though. With that, your third assumption is wrong.

It's fine if you don't want to date a bisexual man. Please don't spread false and insulting information. Thanks.

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Old 10-27-2012, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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There are closeted gay men who lead a fake hetero-life. These are the stories you hear about. It's rare that women with openly (doesn't mean they have sex with men while with a woman, open means they are honest about their sexual attractions) bisexual men experience such deceptions. You confuse them with bisexual men. Plenty of people view porn while in relationships, catching your bi boyfriend viewing gay porn doesn't mean you aren't satisfying him, just like catching your hetero man watching st8 porn doesn't mean you aren't satisfying him. I know many women are insecure about porn, though. With that, your third assumption is wrong.
This is so true. My friend who I am in love with is doing this now and the talk is they won't last long and it does not surprise me. I will be there for him when he needs a friend after his current relationship because I have been there and coming out is the hardest thing someone can do and that is why you have so many guys in the closet. So to confuse a guy who is honestly bisexual and a guy who is just confused is a common mistake and happens all the time.
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Old 10-27-2012, 11:05 PM
 
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I just can't see myself having a long lasting relationship with someone who is bisexual.
Why not - is it because you are a bigot in disguise?
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Old 10-27-2012, 11:09 PM
 
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What the hell does SSM mean? And just because a woman does not ant to date a bisexual man does not mean she's a bigot.
Yet none of these women can spell out why they won't date a bi man.

can you?

(SSM = Same Sex Marriage)
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Old 10-27-2012, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Does it seem justified for a straight woman to break up with guy at a certain point in their relationship because he bisexual?And would any straight, or bisexual women here break up with a guy because he is what he is?
You have nothing to break up about- You really don't have a relationship. You are either with that person and they are with you and no one else OR YOU ARE NOT. This whole premise about bi-sexuality is redundant.
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Old 10-27-2012, 11:13 PM
 
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I have read many stories from women stating they caught their men viewing gay porn, or looking hookups with men,or trannies.How in the world can a woman compete with a dick?It seems like man, or a tranny is the perfect match for these so called bisexual men.
so here we are getting closer to the truth.

This is all about power.

How can a woman compete with a penis?

She can't and that is correct.

but who is to say that a bi man will necessarily choose another man over his GF/wife just because he is bi?

Isn't this a little presumptuous?

I think it is.
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:47 AM
 
Location: Striving for Avalon
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Really? REALLY? It will probably lead to him sleeping with a guy? My, aren't you the omniscient one! It's a stereotype that serves to hurt and denigrate bisexual men. Just because a man is attracted to both men and women does not mean he can't or won't be happy with a monogamous relationship of either gender.

Period.

You can throw all your insecurities and anecdotal stories you want, but that's all it is. If you don't want to date a bisexual guy, that's your business, but please don't spread fallacies.
Agreed. Should women divorce their straight husbands because said husbands almost certainly will sleep around with other women?

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Very pushy for sex in their initial emails/IMs - not that I haven't gotten similar messages from straight guys. One stated "I'm attracted to the person not the equipment" as if it was a moral failing if you weren't attracted to both genders. That kind of stuff.

I think "bi" is the last sexual identity to become accepted in some ways, and bi guys often have a pretty brutal life experience that can really skew their outlook.
No surprises there, unfortunately. Bi men are some of the most sexually aggressive/forward that I have come across. (Foreplay isn't in their dictionary...)

As for the attitude of attraction to the person, it's one of many attitudes that seem to develop so that the bisexual can better "sell themselves" on the dating marketplace. The most popular one is the bisexual who "really prefers women" but just likes his side order of sausage. They are also usually as closeted as all hell and are generally the worst to deal with on a man-to-man basis. Bi men who could comfortably function (ie, be out in the open) in both hetero AND gay relationships are rare. Social forces heavily favour hetero relationships, so this should not be surprised. The "attracted to people" snobbery I perceive as a defensive reaction. While enough believe that they are more enlightened than your average person, it's more importantly a feel-good mechanism that strengthens them as they face a world that sees them as disgusting and really has no interest in gaining a deeper understanding of bisexuality. Then there is the "top only" perspective, also extant to downplay homosexual tendencies.

As for a brutal life experience, I am not sure what you had in mind, but under my own interpretation, I can agree. Bisexuality forums are full of husbands who after years of repression found themselves feeling "trapped" in marriages and terrified of coming out to their wives. Many are enjoying their secret sausage suppers. Many aren't. I have to imagine that feeling trapped in a marriage living a lie is a "brutal" life experience (women in this position seem to be rarer, or less visible at least). Then there are the "me's". My sexuality was confusing to say the least, especially in those formative years. My sex life went from "rare/seldom" when I was a repressed straight to non-existent as an open(ish) bisexual. Friendships became complicated, as I had to factor in the "will they accept me." Surprisingly, I've had luck in that department....more than I could dream of. But the paranoia from straight male friends is atrociously annoying at times. Nonetheless, I still feel uncomfortable in "sexual" atmospheres like nightclubs (hate them, but go on rare occasion for birthdays when decorum demands my presence). My own extraordinarily reserved/guarded nature (take your pick, was it the bullying or being the child of an alcoholic?) doesn't help either, as I come off as cold.

Then you have to factor in an unaccepting environment. Being told (or made to feel) that you're evil, mentally ill, undesirable, mis-guided, perverse, a sinner, a liar, greedy, etc because of your sexual preference will warp you slowly. Many come from a family/home environment that ranges from moderately ignorant to utterly repressive. My own mixes bits from all parts of that spectrum. It's warped...I am basically out in Australia in the state of Queensland with the reputation for being the "Alabama of Australia" for its...less than progressive outlook. When that plane lands in NY, I throw myself head first back into the closet because my family harbours the small-town Catholic provincialism of Long Island. At least I have 3/4 of the year on another continent to live "free." It would be a brutal experience to live like that constantly.


Side note: One great perk is bitching about men with my female friends.

Edit: Jrz Defector, silverbelle, and Angel, good posts.
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Old 10-28-2012, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Memphis
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I was married (faithfully) to a woman for 5 years (together for 10). It was she who wanted a divorce for various reasons. I wanted to stay married. Your first assumption is incorrect.

I do not love penises. I don't find them a particularly attractive (or unattractive) part of the male anatomy. My favorite parts of a man's body are usually his calves, butt, chest, and face. Oddly, those are also my favorite features of a woman's body as different as they look. All of the bisexual men I know (myself included) have no sexual interest in cross-dressers or transgendered people. Your second assumption is incorrect.

There are closeted gay men who lead a fake hetero-life. These are the stories you hear about. It's rare that women with openly (doesn't mean they have sex with men while with a woman, open means they are honest about their sexual attractions) bisexual men experience such deceptions. You confuse them with bisexual men. Plenty of people view porn while in relationships, catching your bi boyfriend viewing gay porn doesn't mean you aren't satisfying him, just like catching your hetero man watching st8 porn doesn't mean you aren't satisfying him. I know many women are insecure about porn, though. With that, your third assumption is wrong.

It's fine if you don't want to date a bisexual man. Please don't spread false and insulting information. Thanks.

Well that's you.I am talking many other women that go through trauma finding out their man is gay/bisexual, and has been viewing gay porn.besides I would never question why my male partner was looking at straight porn,because I know he is STRAIGHT.Gay porn on the other hand makes me question his sexuality, and our relationship.
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Old 10-28-2012, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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Why not - is it because you are a bigot in disguise?
Good grief.
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Old 10-28-2012, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Memphis
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Yet none of these women can spell out why they won't date a bi man.

can you?

(SSM = Same Sex Marriage)
Oh.So if you so concerned about same sex marriage, why do you and other gay men give a flying **** about what straight women think about bisexual men?Since you are gay I thought you would be glad that some women are not trying to be involved with these guys.
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