Do people have an unrealistic view of their own attractiveness? (dates, girlfriend)
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Good for her indeed, as she proves you very wrong. Looks only mean so much in real life.
She doesn't 'prove' me anything. She is an example. I can find an example in almost every situation. That's great for them, but overall is that what I beleive is common? Nope.
Looks mean everything if you are a woman, that is how you are judged bar none. Nobody give a crap how 'nice & friendly' you are if you're ugly. Sounds nice on paper though, doesn't it.
She doesn't 'prove' me anything. She is an example. I can find an example in almost every situation. That's great for them, but overall is that what I beleive is common? Nope.
Looks mean everything if you are a woman, that is how you are judged bar none. Nobody give a crap how 'nice & friendly' you are if you're ugly. Sounds nice on paper though, doesn't it.
An example that proves your sweeping statement is wrong. There are physically unattractive people who never find love and there are attractive people who never find love. Your looks don't run your life, you do and how you choose to react to the world matters much more than how big your nose is or how big your breasts are.
But if you're an unattractive person who thinks being unattractive has doomed them to unhappiness and approaches everyone and everything with a sour attitude because of it, yeah, they're probably not going to do well in the dating world.
An example that proves your sweeping statement is wrong. There are physically unattractive people who never find love and there are attractive people who never find love. Your looks don't run your life, you do and how you choose to react to the world matters much more than how big your nose is or how big your breasts are.
But if you're an unattractive person who thinks being unattractive has doomed them to unhappiness and approaches everyone and everything with a sour attitude because of it, yeah, they're probably not going to do well in the dating world.
Since when is an example befitting for all? Isn't that what you 'experts' are always saying on here? My examples don't fit everyone? Funny how it's a different story now.
I never disagreed that there's people who are ugly who find someone and people that are attractive who don't. What I SAID was: if you think that's the norm, I don't. You can run around all day long telling yourself you look as good as Megan Fox -- you will see how soon you don't.
Now, I said what I had to say in the previous post, if you think it's wrong, then so be it. But I am not changing what I think on these matters. That's all there is to it.
I don't think people are unrealistic about their attractiveness. At least, not myself or other people that I am friends with.
I find myself to be a perfectly average-looking person. I get my fair share of flirtations, and my fair share of being ignored - this is pretty much in line with my perception of myself.
That said, I don't think that there's anything wrong with wanting to think of yourself as above average, especially given how harsh people can be. It doesn't necessarily mean that people are deluded into thinking they're "hotter" than they actually are. More often than not, people choose to be their own champions.
As for being turned down harshly, it could very well be how you approach these particular women. It could also be how many times they've been approached that day, whether they've had a bad day or not, or any number of things.
I know that, personally, when I am walking somewhere and I get cat-called or have a man tell me to "smile" (which really happens entirely too often for my liking), it really pisses me off. Usually, I ignore it, but sometimes I get mean.
In any case, the point is - you never know what is going on with people. And people tend to be realistic about themselves.
Since when is an example befitting for all? Isn't that what you 'experts' are always saying on here? My examples don't fit everyone? Funny how it's a different story now.
I never disagreed that there's people who are ugly who find someone and people that are attractive who don't. What I SAID was: if you think that's the norm, I don't. You can run around all day long telling yourself you look as good as Megan Fox -- you will see how soon you don't.
Now, I said what I had to say in the previous post, if you think it's wrong, then so be it. But I am not changing what I think on these matters. That's all there is to it.
A lesson applied twofold: I have no association with anyone else on this board. Their views are independent of my own so please do not put their words in my mouth. I am an individual.
And similarly, people should be assessed as individuals in the land of love. I didn't say all the short fatties of the world find love, just that some do. You said that women get judged entirely by their looks, not their personality, and I am simply offering an example of how that isn't true.
A lesson applied twofold: I have no association with anyone else on this board. Their views are independent of my own so please do not put their words in my mouth. I am an individual.
And similarly, people should be assessed as individuals in the land of love. I didn't say all the short fatties of the world find love, just that some do. You said that women get judged entirely by their looks, not their personality, and I am simply offering an example of how that isn't true.
Women DO get judged entirely by our looks. If you think most men are going to pay you any mind because you're nice but a 4 in the looks department over a woman with similar interest in him who is a b*tch but an 8 or 9 in the looks department -- keep fooling yourself, LOL. I seen it happen a million times. Now, I don't care if you have 50 examples of where it all panned out for the 5s, that's great for them. I don't feel Jet Jockey looks that bad, but she claims men don't like her looks and she's a hell of a lot 'nicer' then I am these days. But you see where being nice has gotten her, the same place that I am (except I don't even try to date and she does). By that logic she should have tons of bfs. So there's an example for you on how men do not care how 'nice' a woman is. Because they don't.
A lot of the men that's bald, fat and/or short etc. try and talk about how great they are personality wise and how they would be so good to a woman that gave them a chance. If the situation is the reverse and it's a woman they don't even want to hear that garbage from her.
Yup. The answer is usually: she is lazy and should lose weight.
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