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I don't think it's anger that I'm feeling. It's shock and disgust that people will treat each other so callously. It's sympathy for the women you convince to sleep with you while you know that you're going to reject them for doing just that. I'm asking you to give a second thought to this method of yours, because it sounds like you're using a very hurtful and manipulative method of deciding whether you like a woman.
Why do you assume I'm "convincing" the girl to sleep with me?
Girls like sex too. It's not like they're fighting me hard for it....and if I get them into bed, I just won.
In my experience, if a girl wants sex, we'll have it. If she doesn't, we won't. There's very little "convincing" on my part (except the fact that I actually make a move....lol).
Why do you assume I'm "convincing" the girl to sleep with me?
Girls like sex too. It's not like they're fighting me hard for it....and if I get them into bed, I just won.
In my experience, if a girl wants sex, we'll have it. If she doesn't, we won't. There's very little "convincing" on my part (except the fact that I actually make a move....lol).
I'd put more money on this being a massive lie. By the words you use I don't believe you've ever made love to a woman. That V-card must be a heavy burden you're carrying around. It'll happen for you some day, just relax.
I advocate pushing things as far as they can go. Women appreciate it, especially hot ones.
You seem to have skipped over the part of your previous suggestion that I'm arguing against. You're not just pushing things as far as they can go. You're doing it so that you can use the outcome against the woman. You're right that it doesn't bother me a whole lot when a man tries for sex. It's pretty much a given that he will, and I'm not offended that men want sex. But to try to get it only to use it against me, that would be be twisted. Just have the stupid sex if you're both ready. Don't use it as a tool to manipulate and black list someone.
Or she'll think you're only interested in sex and if she's not interested in just being a notch on your belt, she'll move on.
I think the thing to understand about Jack and Ascension is that they aren't looking for a wife. They are looking for a lay. What women think of them doesn't matter to them. If a woman doesn't like it, they move on to the next bimbo who falls for their plays.
Why do you assume I'm "convincing" the girl to sleep with me?
Because you said you're "pushing for sex". It's not a huge semantic stretch to go from "pushing for" something to "convincing" someone to do something. Anyway, if you don't like that word, I retract it. It's not important.
I feel you're missing my point. It's not about the pushing for sex. It's about pushing for sex in order to use it as a reason to reject someone. It's a very hurtful way to decide if you want to be with a woman.
I think the thing to understand about Jack and Ascension is that they aren't looking for a wife. They are looking for a lay. What women think of them doesn't matter to them. If a woman doesn't like it, they move on to the next bimbo who falls for their plays.
That's true. I'd just hate someone who's sincerely on here looking for advice to think what they have to say is gospel as to how all women feel. Personally, I'm old-fashioned when it comes to love and romance. Though I will admit Ascension does have some really good advice now and then. (Not as familiar with Jack).
I think the thing to understand about Jack and Ascension is that they aren't looking for a wife. They are looking for a lay. What women think of them doesn't matter to them. If a woman doesn't like it, they move on to the next bimbo who falls for their plays.
That is one of the biggest difficulties on C-D relationships, is that many aren't here for the relationship part of C-D relationships, they're just looking for the next conquest, so their advice to others about relationships isn't going to apply.
That is one of the biggest difficulties on C-D relationships, is that many aren't here for the relationship part of C-D relationships, they're just looking for the next conquest, so their advice to others about relationships isn't going to apply.
Yes, and as NW said, it's up to the reader to have the common sense to figure that out.
Most men are going to know not to push a woman for sex if they want something quality.
Yes, I HAVE to give updates, it's not a choice, it's something I absolutely have to do.
I just like oustide perspective, whether it's insightful, or if it's downright stupid and give me a good laugh (in this case I'm referring to your opinion).
I think I would push for sex when I was in high school in college because that's the immature thing to do so it made sense around that time. I'm a grown adult now, I've had my share of women, hookups, FWB's, relationships. I'm comfortable and confident with where I'm at right now. I'm not some tool that only thinks of sex when he's spending time with someone.
Hahahahaha, yeah right. Someone who is confident doesn't give updates on their dates and whine how they can't get past 4 or 5 dates. Yep, you sure have women figured out. You're "share" is zero. My money is you're still a virgin...
Capt Jack has it right. If you don't want a girl who sleeps around on the first date, put her to the test. It's not like she's going to just tell you if you ask her. Actions speak louder than words.
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