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View Poll Results: Men, would you rather date an ex-stripper with 2 partners or a woman with 15 partners
Ex-stripper with 2 partners 24 54.55%
Woman with 15 partners 20 45.45%
Voters: 44. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-09-2012, 11:22 PM
 
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I don't even have that discussion with people I'm dating anymore.

Rhacer is right, it just doesn't matter. What good will come of it? None.
Whether it's a good question to ask is a topic for another discussion. If you say that it doesn't matter though, you need to present some good reasons to disagree with the findings of that study.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:31 PM
 
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Whether it's a good question to ask is a topic for another discussion. If you say that it doesn't matter though, you need to present some good reasons to disagree with the findings of that study.
I have one fantastic reason to disagree with the study. I don't freaking care, nor should it matter to anyone. What should matter is whether you can love and care for the person.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:35 PM
 
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Whether it's a good question to ask is a topic for another discussion. If you say that it doesn't matter though, you need to present some good reasons to disagree with the findings of that study.

Sure. The study is a decade old (2003). A lot has changed in a decade. Cohabitation wasn't as common or accepted then as it is now. The years between 2003-2008 was when society saw a noticeable rise in the number of cohabiting/common-law relationships. So obviously since the study was published in 2003, the data and control groups he used were obtained prior to that from couples that had already divorced. It's probably the case that the majority of the couples that were quantified in the study divorced in the 90's.

Sexuality, freedom of sexual expression, cohabitation, and common-law relationships are still relatively new in North American society. They're becoming increasingly common but haven't always been as accepted as they are today. If the study were repeated in, say, 5 years using data from 2008 and beyond, the result would be much different since it's become somewhat of an expectation that people have had multiple sexual partners prior to settling down and it's not exactly uncommon to decide to settle down with someone who has previously lived with a partner.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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If the study referred to here is correct, on average it matters a lot.
It is immediately indicated that it is not correct.

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Cohabitation, that is "living together" before marriage has been shown to increase the risk of subsequent divorce of a couple. Many investigators have felt that the practice of cohabitation is selective for people who don't value marriage highly and hence are more likely to divorce when stress is put onto the marriage. In essence, it was thought that the cohabitors more "liberal values" placed them at higher risk of divorce.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:50 PM
 
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woman with 15 partners. Strippers generally come with border line personality and need EMDR..they usually "hit the wall" when they reach 30
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:01 AM
 
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Sure. The study is a decade old (2003). A lot has changed in a decade. Cohabitation wasn't as common or accepted then as it is now. The years between 2003-2008 was when society saw a noticeable rise in the number of cohabiting/common-law relationships.
The increase in cohabitation between 2003 and 2008 was small, just 1.2%, from 49.6% to 50.8%. So it does not appear to be a significant factor that would affect huge differences found by the study.

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Sexuality, freedom of sexual expression, cohabitation, and common-law relationships are still relatively new in North American society.
We know that the age of first intercourse is actually going up, not down. Also, according to the CDC: "In 2006–2010 the number of sexual partners in the past 12 months for male and female teenagers is similar to the number of partners reported in 2002." I think you are greatly overestimating changes that have been happening lately. There isn't another sexual revolution going on.

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Old 12-10-2012, 12:13 AM
 
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Cohabitation, that is "living together" before marriage has been shown to increase the risk of subsequent divorce of a couple. Many investigators have felt that the practice of cohabitation is selective for people who don't value marriage highly and hence are more likely to divorce when stress is put onto the marriage. In essence, it was thought that the cohabitors more "liberal values" placed them at higher risk of divorce.
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It is immediately indicated that it is not correct.

Selection bias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
First, you are quoting the blog, not the study itself. Second, this statement says nothing about how the sample in the study was selected. It is just talking about what other investigators thought before this current study. Later, the blog says "Executive summary: It's not the liberal values, it the number of partners that matter."

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Old 12-10-2012, 12:58 AM
 
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How are you relating the study to the scenario you posted? How would one factor in difficulties of dating an ex-stripper(potential family/friend disapproval)?

It seems like the study is mostly identifying women who have had only one sexual partner as being less risky in terms of divorce rates. What percentage of women fall in to that category at marriage? So you are going to look at dating in terms of who might be more likely to divorce...how would you even know that information before you dated someone?

OP, if you think the study is important, do you think either gender is up front with this information in the dating process...I'd say no. Do you ask women this early in the dating process?

And lastly, just because a study might show a trend, it doesn't mean at all that you'll have that same experience.

Perhaps I'm confused, but the study utilized information gathered in 1995, is what I understood.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:18 AM
 
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How about a bi-sexual woman with 3 male and 3 female partners?
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:33 AM
 
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Neither and both. A womans sexual history is not one of the criteria I use to judge.
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