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Old 12-11-2012, 04:44 PM
 
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well that was in 1985 i don't recall any more than that...!!! but anyway ive never found porn to be arousing, maybe i should but i don't
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:58 PM
 
Location: In the sticks, SC
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Let's take the phrase "too much" into consideration. There are varying levels of exposure and/or addiction, and YES there can be side effects.

Everyone and their brother laughs at the idea of side effects, but one of the things about side effects is that they have a tendency to sneak up on us. Everyone is sure it won't happen to them. Almost no one stops to think hey, I'm behaving strangely, have shifted from where I used to stand on this...


It can be little things at first. While JerZ's first comment to you was meant light-heartedly (and ignoring Filihok's dismissal of the statement out of hand), consider this:

You aren't likely to think something silly such as the idea that women should be screaming as though giving birth to a hippo just because you touch them or have your hands near them. However, if you're a guy with ANY form of insecurity which is sexually related, no matter how subtly -- is it possible that things you watch over and over might influence how you view certain behaviours, certain acts and finally, certain people?

Let's say you watch a certain act and then you try it on a lover. And let's say it sets this woman off like a firehose, spraying in every direction, screaming like a banshee, biting you and speaking in tongues and quite possibly conjuring up dark entities using your pillow cases and some dryer lint.

This is obviously tinged with hyperbole, in case you didn't catch that.

But let's say you try the same thing with another lover later, and her reaction is less than stellar. It's possible the TRUTH is that she's just not into that, or her mood isn't allowing for that; meanwhile, you're wondering what's wrong with her (cold fish?) or with you (failing sexually?).

Let's say your fetish is large breasts. Now you and I both know out on the street there are women who are curvy, women who are thin, women who are skinny-n-stacked, women who are... I could go on and on, the examples are multivarious.

But you -- you like big boobs. So that's what you seek out for your porn activities. And you LIKE them, enjoy them, watch a lot of them... get used to them... and then you see a gal who is not a freak of nature but IS spectacularly blessed in that department, not only with regard to size, but shape, heft, buoyancy, colours of her skin, etc.

So you're thrilled with your new toy, and you seek HER out for your gratifications -- because let's face it, porn IS about gratification. People who watch it generally are doing so in order to either arouse sex with a partner OR to masturbate; they're NOT watching it for the captivating plotline.

After a while it's not just that THIS woman is doing it for you, it's that other women you used to enjoy don't QUITE measure up to her in your eyes. Oh, they're nice, but she's WOW. And then another like her comes onto the scene. Better, you discover an entire genre of like-minded individuals who are participating in this heavily! W00T!!!!!

You get accustomed to bigger, faster, harder, weirder all the time.

Suddenly on the street a buddy remarks on a well-endowed woman across the way and you see her, quirk your mouth to one side and kind of shrug. She's NICE, sure... but if he thinks THAT measly shape is supposed to be appealing, then he just doesn't KNOW....!

It's a small thing, a simple opinion shift, but it's an effect of your exposure to porn.


What if you're one of these guys who has a bit of hard luck with women? Difficulties dating? And you see soooo much porn, especially these sites and concocted scenarios where guys are just driving around and pick up women, talk them back to their place for the most depraved acts. She was just going to the grocery for some chia seeds (dressed like her last name is Cooterific) and now she's back at this guy's place pulling DP, oral and has a guy in each hand as well.

Holy COW, you know it's a setup but WOW, can you believe she's doing that?

It bleeds in... gradually affects your viewpoint NOT because you believe the scene, but because you see what some women are willing to do for money in a business where anything goes... and gradually your respect for WOMEN slips because of this.

It's small at first, but the effects are there.

Let's look at masturbation itself.

With porn the object is the release, the sexual gratification rather than the act of sex itself.

With practiced self-gratification, unless you are specifically using at as an exercise (which certainly can be done) to increase stamina, what you're actually doing is teaching your body to orgasm quickly and with minimal stimulation.

How do you think that's going to help you when the time comes for a real woman in a real relationship?

Just some things to think about.


And I'm not saying to avoid porn; there are certainly things to be learned.
I think this is a spot on analysis.
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:08 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Pretty straight forward question. Are there negative side effects to watching too much porn? Such as...you begin to view and treat women differently, expect different things from them, have trouble approaching women, have trouble maintaining relationships, have trouble with cheating, have trouble getting off during sex, have trouble being turned on by normal women?

Is any of this and more stuff out there to be blamed on watching too much pornography?

I posted a thread like this awhile ago....IMO, yes it does affect the mens' minds. At any point and time they can turn on the computer and easily see 50, 60 women doing various sex acts, removing clothing with no qualms. I don't beleive they can watch that repeatedly and not begin to think it can apply to the average woman walking the street aka 'she must be just as easy if I introduce the right situation, etc.' I think overall, it starts to deteriorate their views for women as people as opposed to 'moving images that do as told.' Does this mean I am against porn? No. Just sayin.....
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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I posted a thread like this awhile ago....IMO, yes it does affect the mens' minds. At any point and time they can turn on the computer and easily see 50, 60 women doing various sex acts, removing clothing with no qualms. I don't beleive they can watch that repeatedly and not begin to think it can apply to the average woman walking the street aka 'she must be just as easy if I introduce the right situation, etc.' I think overall, it starts to deteriorate their views for women as people as opposed to 'moving images that do as told.' Does this mean I am against porn? No. Just sayin.....


Do you watch movies with men doing heroic things that everyday men don't do?

Do you then expect everyday men to do these things?
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:13 PM
 
Location: TX
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Well, it certainly can be. We could go round and round with our opinions, however. Me personally, I like to look at what's been found out rather than just what's been thought...

http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/comm/mala...f/00arsr11.pdf
Pornography and attitudes supporting v... [Aggress Behav. 2010 Jan-Feb] - PubMed - NCBI

Here's a good read, referencing studies/statistics as recent at 2008.

http://www.socialcostsofpornography....d_Violence.pdf

And another, referencing studies/statistics as recent as 2007.

http://www1.umn.edu/aurora/pdf/Resea...ornography.pdf


At times, proponents of pornography try to reverse logic by arguing that POSITIVE results might come from viewing pornography. These are typically results that serve to enhance something (e.g., a person's sex drive, their relationship, etc.). While I don’t deny this could happen (there are studies available to suggest that as well), I submit that the impact of the above risks outweighs the impact of these possible results, particularly because there are other ways to enhance your sex drive and your relationship... ways that do not come with quite so many risks. Further, the studies are often surveys that lend themselves to being flawed (such as simply asking a viewer "Has pornography improved your relationship?") or otherwise have little in the way of support through the peer review process.

I don't think it should be illegal or anything. But I do consider it an unnecessary risk that can't bring any benefit a safer alternative couldn't. Considering how... balanced (?, I don't believe it's balanced; I believe the research is in favor of it being more harmful/risky than beneficial/neutral) the evidence is on the subject, I'd suggest people stay away from it. Not because I think many people will listen, just so I'll know I gave it a shot
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:16 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Do you watch movies with men doing heroic things that everyday men don't do?

Do you then expect everyday men to do these things?

I'm not talking about superman movies. I'm talking about regular men being inundated with REAL women, portraying themselves as sex toys by the droves and how those thoughts start to melt into their thoughts and opinions about REAL, everyday life women. In this case, no, I don't beleive they can keep it separated, not at all.
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Relaxing with animals
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Do you watch movies with men doing heroic things that everyday men don't do?

Do you then expect everyday men to do these things?

This is not a relevant/valid comparison. Porn is actually having sex, & is totally different than imitating movie stunts. You can't use a poor analogy to discredit/belittle an effect. You're basically ignoring all the evidence that it is harmful, by saying it shouldn't be..because other entertainment forms aren't.
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:54 PM
 
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No, I watch porn all the time and I'm still aggressive, perverted and normal
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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The article I read which was posted on the first page alludes to the fact that watching too much porn can cause men to have a tough time reaching climax during sex. Perhaps due to masturbating too often, becoming too accustomed to the feeling of their hand, or perhaps because the women they're having sex with don't look much like porn stars.

I treat all women with respect, until they give me a reason not to. I can't say the same is true for everyone though, there may be some people whose minds become so embedded with these images and sexual acts that they begin to view it as normal and common practice, customary even. Maybe I'm old fashioned in the way I treat women, or maybe I know how to separate pornography from real life.

Anyways, I'll give this a go and experiment with not watching any for a whole month.
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:56 PM
 
Location: In the sticks, SC
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Porn today is so much different than it was 15-20 years ago.
1. It is MUCH more accesssable now than then. Back then you had to actually go LOOK for porn. You don't even have to make an EFFORT to get porn nowadays. How much effort do you think a "porn junkie" is going to be willing to put in to get the "real thing?"
2. There are many more TYPES of porn available. Every day people upload amateur porn. It is not the big production it used to be. ANYBODY can make a porn scene So when people talk about porn bieng "unrealistic" they obviously don't watch much porn, and that's okay.
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