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Old 01-01-2013, 09:53 PM
 
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The one where, the woman never has to overly remind him ''Where is this going'', put ultimatums nor has to break up first to then get him to change his mind and go after her with the ring.

The one that does it because he wants it too, out of his free will. I've been hearing more stories on another forums at 3 more women having the same problem. They are stuck with someone that at first was on the same page, they made the mistake of living together and suddenly they become another ''forever live-in gf''.

I believe that if I had to nag a man to fully commit to me, then it's not worth my time because if he then gives in, I wouldn't feel it's an honest and sincere proposal. But it's like that's the case most of times: he has to be reminded in order for it to happen.

Those stories sometimes make me lose hope. Though I'm not interested in kids, I still one day want a true, sincere proposal...not one where I had to nag to get it (childfree marriage is what I'm looking for). I don't like begging to get something but I wouldn't like waiting endless years either.

BTW I just posted my a recent picture of me in Christmas. I haven't gotten hit on that much in my younger years and only been in one relationship (now I'm 25). I think I'm just average in looks. Can this play a role in not finding the one yet??
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Old 01-01-2013, 09:54 PM
 
Location: southern california
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marriage is down 50%.
42 million plus divorces filed since 1975 no fault, 70% filed by women. even an incest learns after awhile.
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Old 01-01-2013, 09:59 PM
 
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marriage is down 50%.
42 million plus divorces filed since 1975 no fault, 70% filed by women. even an incest learns after awhile.
Wow that sucks. The only 3 reasons I would ever think of divorcing a man is:
1) He cheats physically (emotionally cheating can maybe be worked out once but not him having sex or doing anything sexual with someone else).
2) He becomes abusive and tries to hit me or does it
3) He has a serious addiction and it has greatly affected our sex life as well as other areas (social life, workplace, etc.) and he refuses to get help

Other than that, anything can be worked out.
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Old 01-01-2013, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Wow that sucks. The only 3 reasons I would ever think of divorcing a man is:
1) He cheats physically (emotionally cheating can maybe be worked out once but not him having sex or doing anything sexual with someone else).
2) He becomes abusive and tries to hit me or does it
3) He has a serious addiction and it has greatly affected our sex life as well as other areas (social life, workplace, etc.) and he refuses to get help

Other than that, anything can be worked out.
What would be valid reasons for a man to divorce you?
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Old 01-01-2013, 10:05 PM
 
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What would be valid reasons for a man to divorce you?
I expect the same in return. Therefore it would be the same answer.
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Old 01-01-2013, 10:07 PM
 
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I think marriage is a really unattractive proposition for men in today's society. Why? Because marriage has so little to offer men now. Once upon a time having a wife meant having someone to care for your children while at work, someone to clean, someone to cook, someone to encourage you, someone to have sex with, basically someone to help you out and make life more enjoyable and easy. But now, wives aren't really helpers, they're quite the opposite.
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Old 01-01-2013, 10:16 PM
 
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I think that there are so many women out there who are willing to do anything to get a man, that he doesn't need to put a ring on it anymore.

And many men don't know what realistic marriages look like because they haven't seen them modeled.

This it's a reflection of the society that we live in today.
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Old 01-01-2013, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Maryland's 6th District.
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The one where, the woman never has to overly remind him ''Where is this going'', put ultimatums nor has to break up first to then get him to change his mind and go after her with the ring.

The one that does it because he wants it too, out of his free will. I've been hearing more stories on another forums at 3 more women having the same problem. They are stuck with someone that at first was on the same page, they made the mistake of living together and suddenly they become another ''forever live-in gf''.

I believe that if I had to nag a man to fully commit to me, then it's not worth my time because if he then gives in, I wouldn't feel it's an honest and sincere proposal. But it's like that's the case most of times: he has to be reminded in order for it to happen.

Those stories sometimes make me lose hope. Though I'm not interested in kids, I still one day want a true, sincere proposal...not one where I had to nag to get it (childfree marriage is what I'm looking for). I don't like begging to get something but I wouldn't like waiting endless years either.

BTW I just posted my a recent picture of me in Christmas. I haven't gotten hit on that much in my younger years and only been in one relationship (now I'm 25). I think I'm just average in looks. Can this play a role in not finding the one yet??
I used to hear it mentioned that if you cannot go on a week-long road trip without want to "kill" each other at the end, then the relationship will ultimately not last. I, on the other hand, think that living together first is the only way to see if it will work out in the long run. Prior to living together, you both have your own space full of your own stuff arranged in your own way. It is a space you have where you can momentarily get away from each other, even without intention, and be amongst you. And this you was more-than-likely there long before you met the other person. There is so much the other person does not see about you, nor you about them, that only comes out when you begin to live with each other. I'm talking about the little nuances about how you live at home.

As for me, I am neither for or against marriage and I do not feel marriage is proof of commitment or intention. If a girl I was in a serious relationship with nagged me about marriage, or played games in an attempt to bait me into proposing, I probably would make plans to exit the relationship. However, if it felt right, I would propose, but it would probably take me a few years.
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Old 01-01-2013, 10:18 PM
 
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I think marriage is a really unattractive proposition for men in today's society. Why? Because marriage has so little to offer men now. Once upon a time having a wife meant having someone to care for your children while at work, someone to clean, someone to cook, someone to encourage you, someone to have sex with, basically someone to help you out and make life more enjoyable and easy. But now, wives aren't really helpers, they're quite the opposite.
Does this mean I should either just give up and stay single or only focus on dating forever? At times I'm really close to giving up.

I mean, I'm making it easier by not wanting kids. I would sign a prep-nup if he terribly distrusts me and thinks I'm desperately after his money.
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Old 01-01-2013, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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they become another ''forever live-in gf''.
How is this, practically, different than marriage?

You're in a long-term committed monogamous relationship together
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